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I'm going to go the attention whore route and put this up here and in the draft forum.
Players I like for us at various positions, regardless of round selected. I hope we end up with at least 2 or 3 of these this weekend.
QB: Probably isn't worth spending much time on the higher rated guys, none of them are getting to where we are. But I'd love Will Levis for us and CJ Stroud is the best passer in the class. Hendon Hooker is also interesting to me but I expect he will be gone too by our 1st. All 3 have size and arm strength. Of the realistic draft guys for us I still like Tanner McKee probably the most, although Clayton Tune is interesting. I like Stetson Bennett a lot more than Max Duggan. Tyson Bagent is a guy from a tiny school but he has size and arm strength, and was really productive. Might be a 7th rd or UDFA but interesting player.
RB: Obviously Bijan Robinson fits here and would probably be a sure fire probowl caliber player, but odds are we won't get him without trading up. I don't want to see us sacrifice day two picks to move up for him (or anyone else unless its a QB to replace Prescott in 2024 or maybe DT Jalen Carter) but if it was a small move ala Dez Bryant I would be ok. Other RB's I like are Tyjae Spears and Kendre Miller (middle rounds) and Kenny McIntosh after middle round area. Like some others too but these are my favs. I think McIntosh is really underrated.
WR: Not a huge fan of spending a 1st on a WR but we probably do need one at some point. After the 1st rd I like guys like Cedric Tillman and Jonathan Mingo. Josh Downs is smaller but he is really good.
TE: Everyone seems to have us pegged for TE early but I am not sure that's a real lock, but if we end up with Michael Mayer or Darnell Washington early I won't be disappointed. Both are solid players all around and are superior blockers. Really like Tucker Kraft a lot. Luke Schoonmaker comes out of Michigan and Harbaugh knows how to coach TE's and how to use them like the NFL does. Brayden Willis might be more of a H Back/FB tweener but he is really intriguing.
Interior OL: Love Steve Avila for us, watched some of Chandler Zavala and I can see why the Cowboys like him too. Anthony Bradford looks like a solid starting G and if they wait till later rounds the C from Michigan is a really good player Oluwatimi and a guy I think is getting undervalued compared to how he played.
OT: Not sure this is much of a priority but they supposedly love Darnell Wright, and he is really, really good. Looks like a 10yr fixture as a probowl RT and might could play LG initially. Later rounds Tyler Steen is interesting to me and has a ton of starting exp in the SEC. Another guy that could play RT or G, and has also played LT some.
DT: This kid Adabawore is a bit of a tweener and might not ever be a regular starting DT (might be a nickel sub pass rush guy who can also play a little at DE) but he is really impressive and had one of the alltime great combine workouts for a guy his size. Really like Keanu Benton and he could be a regular starting DT from day one here. Jacquelin Roy looks like a nice sized DT with regular starting potential as well.
DE/pass rusher: Supposedly Quinn loves Will McDonald and its easy to see why, explosive and very productive. Might be a little small to play DE regularly but having another dominant edge pass rush guy is never a bad thing. Keion White is another guy that could play DE or DT in pass rush situations and was really good in the ACC. I havent seen the Cowboys showing any interest in Army's Andre Carter but he is very interesting to me. Stands out in their games and has major size (6'7), wingspan and is good athletically. They supposedly like Bryan Young as well but where they'd have to take him (probably 2nd rd) seems high to me.
LB: The two guys we see mentioned a lot Henley and Overshown are both high upside guys who would seem to be ideal fits for our defense. I can't see them taking Jack Campbell but he's a healthier LVE that still has upside, would be a high IQ guy that would pair well with Parsons. To'o To'o from Alabama also seems like a really instinctive and athletic scheme fit, high intelligence guy that has been coached exceptionally well.
CB: Like others, I love Forbes but understand the concern over his weight, but he is a lights out player with crazy good ball skills (like Diggs). CB is a sneaky need because Diggs has to get a mega extension done, Gilmore is probably a 1yr rental and Bland is just entering his 2nd yr, and there's no depth behind those 3. Like Cam Smith a good bit. Julius Brents and Darius Rush look like guys Quinn wants at CB to me.
S: Not really enamored with any of them much. They supposedly love Brian Branch and he has gotten great coaching and expe at Alabama. I didnt know anything about Marte Mapu so I watched some of his video stuff and he stands out on the clips. Could be a nickel LB or safety, seems like a faster version of Jayron Kearse to me.
PK: I think they'll draft Jake Moody or Chad Ryland, and both are great prospects and would seemingly fix out PK spot for a long time.
Players I like for us at various positions, regardless of round selected. I hope we end up with at least 2 or 3 of these this weekend.
QB: Probably isn't worth spending much time on the higher rated guys, none of them are getting to where we are. But I'd love Will Levis for us and CJ Stroud is the best passer in the class. Hendon Hooker is also interesting to me but I expect he will be gone too by our 1st. All 3 have size and arm strength. Of the realistic draft guys for us I still like Tanner McKee probably the most, although Clayton Tune is interesting. I like Stetson Bennett a lot more than Max Duggan. Tyson Bagent is a guy from a tiny school but he has size and arm strength, and was really productive. Might be a 7th rd or UDFA but interesting player.
RB: Obviously Bijan Robinson fits here and would probably be a sure fire probowl caliber player, but odds are we won't get him without trading up. I don't want to see us sacrifice day two picks to move up for him (or anyone else unless its a QB to replace Prescott in 2024 or maybe DT Jalen Carter) but if it was a small move ala Dez Bryant I would be ok. Other RB's I like are Tyjae Spears and Kendre Miller (middle rounds) and Kenny McIntosh after middle round area. Like some others too but these are my favs. I think McIntosh is really underrated.
WR: Not a huge fan of spending a 1st on a WR but we probably do need one at some point. After the 1st rd I like guys like Cedric Tillman and Jonathan Mingo. Josh Downs is smaller but he is really good.
TE: Everyone seems to have us pegged for TE early but I am not sure that's a real lock, but if we end up with Michael Mayer or Darnell Washington early I won't be disappointed. Both are solid players all around and are superior blockers. Really like Tucker Kraft a lot. Luke Schoonmaker comes out of Michigan and Harbaugh knows how to coach TE's and how to use them like the NFL does. Brayden Willis might be more of a H Back/FB tweener but he is really intriguing.
Interior OL: Love Steve Avila for us, watched some of Chandler Zavala and I can see why the Cowboys like him too. Anthony Bradford looks like a solid starting G and if they wait till later rounds the C from Michigan is a really good player Oluwatimi and a guy I think is getting undervalued compared to how he played.
OT: Not sure this is much of a priority but they supposedly love Darnell Wright, and he is really, really good. Looks like a 10yr fixture as a probowl RT and might could play LG initially. Later rounds Tyler Steen is interesting to me and has a ton of starting exp in the SEC. Another guy that could play RT or G, and has also played LT some.
DT: This kid Adabawore is a bit of a tweener and might not ever be a regular starting DT (might be a nickel sub pass rush guy who can also play a little at DE) but he is really impressive and had one of the alltime great combine workouts for a guy his size. Really like Keanu Benton and he could be a regular starting DT from day one here. Jacquelin Roy looks like a nice sized DT with regular starting potential as well.
DE/pass rusher: Supposedly Quinn loves Will McDonald and its easy to see why, explosive and very productive. Might be a little small to play DE regularly but having another dominant edge pass rush guy is never a bad thing. Keion White is another guy that could play DE or DT in pass rush situations and was really good in the ACC. I havent seen the Cowboys showing any interest in Army's Andre Carter but he is very interesting to me. Stands out in their games and has major size (6'7), wingspan and is good athletically. They supposedly like Bryan Young as well but where they'd have to take him (probably 2nd rd) seems high to me.
LB: The two guys we see mentioned a lot Henley and Overshown are both high upside guys who would seem to be ideal fits for our defense. I can't see them taking Jack Campbell but he's a healthier LVE that still has upside, would be a high IQ guy that would pair well with Parsons. To'o To'o from Alabama also seems like a really instinctive and athletic scheme fit, high intelligence guy that has been coached exceptionally well.
CB: Like others, I love Forbes but understand the concern over his weight, but he is a lights out player with crazy good ball skills (like Diggs). CB is a sneaky need because Diggs has to get a mega extension done, Gilmore is probably a 1yr rental and Bland is just entering his 2nd yr, and there's no depth behind those 3. Like Cam Smith a good bit. Julius Brents and Darius Rush look like guys Quinn wants at CB to me.
S: Not really enamored with any of them much. They supposedly love Brian Branch and he has gotten great coaching and expe at Alabama. I didnt know anything about Marte Mapu so I watched some of his video stuff and he stands out on the clips. Could be a nickel LB or safety, seems like a faster version of Jayron Kearse to me.
PK: I think they'll draft Jake Moody or Chad Ryland, and both are great prospects and would seemingly fix out PK spot for a long time.
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Trying to find the article that referenced it, but yesterday Stephen Jones said the team was actively involved in some trade talks and then mentioned specifically trading for veterans and how it tended to be a bargain to get someone during the draft. I thought that was interesting because I don't recall him referencing that in previous years at draft time regarding veterans.
If you do some Twitter searching you can find rumors that say the Cowboys and Colts may be discussing a deal for all-pro/probowl DT DeForest Buckner. I haven't seen it reported by anyone that covers the team so it may be nothing, but if it did go down would be a huge get for the defense.
If you do some Twitter searching you can find rumors that say the Cowboys and Colts may be discussing a deal for all-pro/probowl DT DeForest Buckner. I haven't seen it reported by anyone that covers the team so it may be nothing, but if it did go down would be a huge get for the defense.
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Here's part of what I referring to, where SJ mentions trading for a veteran during the draft. There's a separate interview I think with wither him or drunken Jerry where they state they are actively discussing some trades right now.
- They work through a lot of mock draft scenarios to be prepared to trade up or down.
- Open to trading a draft pick for another veteran player as you get better value in those trades now than after the draft.
- TE is the deepest position in the draft. Which works well for us. Plenty of RBs and WRs too.
- It's about the grade not the position ranking. The 3rd DT may have the same grade as the 1st TE.
- Draft board is never really finalized until the draft starts.
- Trade offers are most serious when you're a pick away from being on the clock.
- Asked about Arkansas LB Drew Sanders. Calls him really unique. Coach's son, high football IQ, can be moved around the defense like Micah. Versatile player.
- Age factors into these prospects but it's not really a determining factor.
- They work through a lot of mock draft scenarios to be prepared to trade up or down.
- Open to trading a draft pick for another veteran player as you get better value in those trades now than after the draft.
- TE is the deepest position in the draft. Which works well for us. Plenty of RBs and WRs too.
- It's about the grade not the position ranking. The 3rd DT may have the same grade as the 1st TE.
- Draft board is never really finalized until the draft starts.
- Trade offers are most serious when you're a pick away from being on the clock.
- Asked about Arkansas LB Drew Sanders. Calls him really unique. Coach's son, high football IQ, can be moved around the defense like Micah. Versatile player.
- Age factors into these prospects but it's not really a determining factor.
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This isn't true, they just haven't invested a 1st rd pick in one for some time.
But other than the soft Taco and probably Morris Claiborne, there arn't many 1st rd picks you could look at the past 10-12 years or so and complain about. They would have taken Aaron Donald in 2014 had the Rams not surprised everyone and took him a couple spots or so before us. We made out ok though with that because Martin is a HoF RG.
Recent picks used on DT's:
2022- John Ridgeway (5)
2021- Osa Odighzuwa (3)
2021- Chauncey Golston (3). Was a DE and has played a little there, but plays more as inside pass rusher on pass downs
2021- Quiten Bohanna (6)
2020- Neville Gallimore (3)
2019- Trysten Hill (2)
2017- Joey Ivie (7)
2016- Maliek Collins (3)
They also have traded some late rd picks for DT's (like Hankins last yr) and signed Dontari Poe & Gerald McCoy in free agency.
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you typed all that out just to prove my point for me ?
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So the only way to invest in a position is to use a 1st rd pick on them?
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i dunno maybe it boils down to them not knowing wtf theyre doing at DT. and its been happening for years and years. they know what theyre doing w/ OL. cant figure it out w/ DT.
DAL has not drafted, signed, or traded for anybody worth a shit at DT... theyre all mostly bums.
when was the last time DAL signed a DT that they drafted to a second contract?
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do we consider Crawford a DT?
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Without checking, maybe Ratliff or Canty. I'd have to look.
The DT thing is somewhat similar to our failures at OL for years. Other than Gurode and Flozelle we had a really bad run there for a long time until Garrett took over as HC and we drafted Tyron.
But getting back to the 1st rd pick thing, again other than two guys you really can't say they made any first rd mistakes. And the yr they drafted Taco they would have taken TJ Watt if they wouldnt have listened to Marinelli.