The never-ending POTUS Election thread....

[MrB]

So fraud is acceptable to you and just something that happens and that we need to accept?

Of course it’s not ok. I’m not going to storm the Capitol though and I’m not going to let it consume my whole life. I have shit to do.


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[yimyammer]

The same thing that Alex Jones is pushing, that the election was stolen.


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what exactly have you listened to or read regarding Shapiro, please post a link so I can see what you're seeing/reading, thx

 

[yimyammer]

Of course it’s not ok. I’m not going to storm the Capitol though and I’m not going to let it consume my whole life. I have shit to do.


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me too brother!

 

[yimyammer]

I’m not going to go through all of Ben Shapiro’s podcasts. If you want you listen to him be my guests.


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So you haven't actually ever listened to anything from him or read anything he's written?

You're just passing along something you've heard about him, is that correct?

Reason I ask is I agree wholeheartedly that Alex Jones is a nut bar but I didn't get the same impression about Shapiro while he was on Joe Rogans podcast.

Further, its really disappointing when people make bold proclamations but consistently avoid providing the basis for their opinion when asked. I'm not looking to argue with you sir, I'm trying to see what you see to better understand your view, perhaps even get on board with it and it doesnt seem too much to ask that you give evidence to support your view yet you continually avoid supporting any of your opinions with evidence when asked.

Why do you feel it's acceptable to continually make unsubstantiated assertions and resist providing sources when asked?

 

[yimyammer]

They (YouTube) actually deleted the "dislikes" and added "likes" so it doesn't look so bad. Go back and check.

It's amazing the length big tech and China Joe's handlers will go to make him appear legitimate and liked.

which video are you referring to, I checked one and its still 4+ to 1 dislikes:

 

[yimyammer]

How can you mass adjudicate 106,000 ballots out of 130,000 (or something like that). This is not a stat from Q, but from the GA Secretary of State during an election night interview.

I cant keep up with everything but I did see a couple interviews with the person in charge of Georgia elections as well as another man involved who did a press conference about the elections and his concern over the safety of the people working to count the vote, etc

both claimed to be Republicans and both claimed the count was fair and accurate, why should we not trust what they said?

 

[MrB]

So you haven't actually ever listened to anything from him or read anything he's written?

You're just passing along something you've heard about him, is that correct?

Reason I ask is I agree wholeheartedly that Alex Jones is a nut bar but I didn't get the same impression about Shapiro while he was on Joe Rogans podcast.

Further, its really disappointing when people make bold proclamations but consistently avoid providing the basis for their opinion when asked. I'm not looking to argue with you sir, I'm trying to see what you see to better understand your view, perhaps even get on board with it and it doesnt seem too much to ask that you give evidence to support your view yet you continually avoid supporting any of your opinions with evidence when asked.

Why do you feel it's acceptable to continually make unsubstantiated assertions and resist providing sources when asked?

Shapiro is much smarter than Alex Jones. There’s no question about that. The main conspiracy theory that Shapiro was spreading was spreading is that Joe Biden did anything illegal when it comes to his son being on the board of that Ukrainian company. Yet there has been zero evidence that Biden did anything illegal. If he had done something illegal he wouldn’t have been elected president.

I may have been a bit harsh in comparing him to Alex Jones because yes, Jones is a nut job. Shapiro is too intelligent to come across that way. I still view him as a dangerous influencer though.


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[InternetKing]

Judge on paler case rules and amazon wins the case.

Got the paper and took photo of the article here it is

 

[yimyammer]

Shapiro is much smarter than Alex Jones. There’s no question about that. The main conspiracy theory that Shapiro was spreading was spreading is that Joe Biden did anything illegal when it comes to his son being on the board of that Ukrainian company. Yet there has been zero evidence that Biden did anything illegal. If he had done something illegal he wouldn’t have been elected president.

I may have been a bit harsh in comparing him to Alex Jones because yes, Jones is a nut job. Shapiro is too intelligent to come across that way. I still view him as a dangerous influencer though.


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Thanks for taking the time to address my questions, I'll try to read and watch some of Shapiros stuff regarding the issues you mentioned.

For anyone not familiar with Alex Jones, there's a good Frontline show about him but you can also just listen to him for 5 minutes and realize something aint right

 

[Dodger12]

which video are you referring to, I checked one and its still 4+ to 1 dislikes:

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See if this link works Yimmy. All of them were scrubbed and the article has screen shots....let me know what you think. I'm curious.

YouTube scrubs thousands of dislikes from Joe Biden videos on official White House channel

YouTube's actions temporarily reduced the dislike-to-like ratio by more than 6x on some videos.

reclaimthenet.org

 

[Dodger12]

I cant keep up with everything but I did see a couple interviews with the person in charge of Georgia elections as well as another man involved who did a press conference about the elections and his concern over the safety of the people working to count the vote, etc

both claimed to be Republicans and both claimed the count was fair and accurate, why should we not trust what they said?

I trust nothing of what they say. Show me. The Governor sold his soul to Dominion and there are rumors that some family members got kickbacks. They had to stand their ground or be exposed.

In addition, if these people question the vote, they basically admit their own miserable failures. In addition, all eyes were on Fulton County and the suspect ballots taken from under the table....so what do they do? They audit Cobb County. Lastly, when ballots were adjudicated, the original ballots were destroyed. So all we can see is what was adjudicated, not what was wrong with the initial ballot that caused it to be adjudicated. It's a free attempt at fraud without any evidence. My question stands....why were so many ballots adjudicated? I found the below link but most of the internet has been scrubbed. Can you explain this?

94% of 113,130 ballots were adjudicated (“questionable”) in Fulton County, Georgia​

94% of 113,130 ballots were adjudicated (“questionable”) in Fulton County, Georgia – Investment Watch

www.investmentwatchblog.com

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: An Audit of DIGITALLY ADJUDICATED BALLOTS Would Easily Place Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin and Probably Michigan in the Trump Column | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft | 88

There may be enough ballots adjudicated illegally in this year’s election to move Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan to the Trump column. Enough states for Trump to win the election.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Go to the video and listen to the parts outlined in the article. 106,000 votes were adjudicated out of 113,000. It's worse (staistically) than what I posed earlier because I thought there were 130,000 ballots in the batch.

Incriminating facts emerge from a Georgia hearing the media buried

The media kept quiet about a hearing on Wednesday before the Georgia Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Elections. Perhaps they did so because important information emerged establishing beyond a doubt that significant fraud occurred in Georg...

www.americanthinker.com

Quote: "There was a point in that video where we showed, it was Richard Barron, who had said that 113,000 votes were cast, a 105,000 were adjudicated. Right? Now, that's not physically possible, you know, which we can prove mathematically but, at the same time, if you adjudicate 105,000 votes, you have to understand from a technological perspective, as we've delved into all the different aspects of how the vote moves along, when you adjudicate a ballot, that old reference, the image that you saw or anything like that, is completely destroyed. It's gone. You can no longer reference that thing. And when you go run a hand recount like you did in Georgia, then you're looking at a printout of those ballot scans. So, at no point did the original voter intent enter into that process once it's been destroyed."

 

[Dodger12]

So when Mr. B says that there were not enough fraudulent votes to change election results, how can he definitively make that statement? He can't; but he's just repeating the left wing talking points and taking it at face value.

When 106,000 ballots out of 113,000 (94%) are adjudicated, that's outrageous. Simply unacceptable. So when any politician gets up and tells me there was no fraud, I need them to explain this to me. It's physically impossible. A recount is going to count the same 94% of adjudicated ballots.

These adjudicated ballots were more than enough to change the election results in GA. This doesn't even take into account any Dominion issues, or dead people who voted, or out of state people who voted, etc.

I'm getting agitated just typing this BS it's so outrageous that it boggles the mind. Can anyone offer an explanation why 94% of ballots would need to be adjudicated?

 

[yimyammer]

See if this link works Yimmy. All of them were scrubbed and the article has screen shots....let me know what you think. I'm curious.

YouTube scrubs thousands of dislikes from Joe Biden videos on official White House channel

YouTube's actions temporarily reduced the dislike-to-like ratio by more than 6x on some videos.

reclaimthenet.org

thx

and WTF??

and here's an example of what's in the article which could be manipulated like anything on the internet:



Here's the screenshot I just took:

 

[Dodger12]

Yet there has been zero evidence that Biden did anything illegal. If he had done something illegal he wouldn’t have been elected president.

Were you awake when Twitter blocked the NY Post story on Hunter's computer? How were people to know if the Corpse was involved if the evidence of his treachery was blocked? Not that I think it would matter to people......but it's just a naive statement you're making. People knew there were red flags about Biden but the left and the MSM even pawned it off to a Russian disinformation campaign. Gotta hand it to the left, that well never dries out.

I still view him as a dangerous influencer though.

Why? What does this even mean that you view him as a "dangerous influencer." Dangerous to who? The assault on the Fits Ammendment is far more dangerous than anything people on either side post or say.

 

[Doomsday]

Why? What does this even mean that you view him as a "dangerous influencer."

What he's accusing Shapiro of isn't true, he never said Biden was guilty of any crimes related to Burisma or even charged, all Shapiro did was comment on the reporting about it from far-right blogger site "Reformation Charlotte" who reported on what actually happened with the charges brought which were immediately dismissed. Headline was clickbait though. It's all here:

Fact check: Joe Biden was never 'wanted' in Ukraine; prosecutors rejected a complaint

As President-elect Joe Biden prepares to transition into the role of the president, news of a Ukrainian investigation has resurfaced.

www.usatoday.com

Shapiro is "dangerous" because instead of sweeping this type stuff under the rug he talks about it and analyzes it, like Journalists used to do before they became hacks.

 

[MrB]

So when Mr. B says that there were not enough fraudulent votes to change election results, how can he definitively make that statement? He can't; but he's just repeating the left wing talking points and taking it at face value.

When 106,000 ballots out of 113,000 (94%) are adjudicated, that's outrageous. Simply unacceptable. So when any politician gets up and tells me there was no fraud, I need them to explain this to me. It's physically impossible. A recount is going to count the same 94% of adjudicated ballots.

These adjudicated ballots were more than enough to change the election results in GA. This doesn't even take into account any Dominion issues, or dead people who voted, or out of state people who voted, etc.

I'm getting agitated just typing this BS it's so outrageous that it boggles the mind. Can anyone offer an explanation why 94% of ballots would need to be adjudicated?

Dodger I’ve noticed you mention Dominion a couple of times and I’m wondering if you hear about that theory being debunked? Dominion is actually suing several people for defamation stating those conspiracy theories aren’t true. This article even points out where that theory came from and how the guy that started it had no proof. OAN has since removed their articles about Dominion (according to this article).

Dominion Voting Systems Employee Sues Trump Campaign And Allies, Alleging Defamation https://www.npr.org/2020/12/22/9492...hare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social


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[MrB]

Were you awake when Twitter blocked the NY Post story on Hunter's computer? How were people to know if the Corpse was involved if the evidence of his treachery was blocked? Not that I think it would matter to people......but it's just a naive statement you're making. People knew there were red flags about Biden but the left and the MSM even pawned it off to a Russian disinformation campaign. Gotta hand it to the left, that well never dries out.



Why? What does this even mean that you view him as a "dangerous influencer." Dangerous to who? The assault on the Fits Ammendment is far more dangerous than anything people on either side post or say.

So is Twitter the only means of obtaining information? In today’s world if there was legit proof it would have come out. It hasn’t.

And why is Shapiro dangerous? Because he has a huge platform and when you spread lies you will have people that buy into those lies and before you know it you have incidents like what happened at the Capitol.


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[MrB]

What he's accusing Shapiro of isn't true, he never said Biden was guilty of any crimes related to Burisma or even charged, all Shapiro did was comment on the reporting about it from far-right blogger site "Reformation Charlotte" who reported on what actually happened with the charges brought which were immediately dismissed. Headline was clickbait though. It's all here:

Fact check: Joe Biden was never 'wanted' in Ukraine; prosecutors rejected a complaint

As President-elect Joe Biden prepares to transition into the role of the president, news of a Ukrainian investigation has resurfaced.

www.usatoday.com

Shapiro is "dangerous" because instead of sweeping this type stuff under the rug he talks about it and analyzes it, like Journalists used to do before they became hacks.

Anything that is obtained from a far right or far left source shouldn’t be reported as truth. Would you take anything that was reported from CNN as truth? I’m guessing no. Then you shouldn’t take anything from a far right source as truth either. The actual truth is somewhere down the middle.


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[MrB]

Alright guys, this conversation has become fairly boring to me so I’m going to excuse myself from it.


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[Doomsday]

Anything that is obtained from a far right or far left source shouldn’t be reported as truth.

And, it wasn't. You're not paying attention. In fact it was pointed out that the title of the article was clickbait that didn't match the content of the article. And an objective analysis of the entire affair followed. Instead of staying away from the topic totally.