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But I thought you guys said Jerry took a step back and learned from Parcells.

Huddle up and get your story straight.

I'll wait.

I never said that, hell, back on CZ I constantly pointed out that TO coming here was all Jerry's doing. He poked his head into Bill's office, told him that he was going to go after TO and Parcells gave in.
 
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36-44 in Cleveland. 5-11 his last season.

Totally awesome.

New England: 5-11 his first season. 0-2 before Brady the next season.

Totally awesome.
 

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36-44 in Cleveland. 5-11 his last season.

Totally awesome.

New England: 5-11 his first season. 0-2 before Brady the next season.

Totally awesome.

lol Little Bill might be better at coaching up players and laying down schemes, but no way in hell can anyone say that Little Bill was better at assembling talent or coaching staffs.
 
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36-44 in Cleveland. 5-11 his last season.

Totally awesome.

Documented why. Owner hell bent on leaving.




New England: 5-11 his first season. 0-2 before Brady the next season.

Totally awesome.

You know what he did with Brady? He played him.

Even when Bledsoe came back healthy that year, and everyone was pressuring Belichick to play Bledsoe in that Super Bowl.

Belichick recognized the talent, and he made one hell of a difficult decision.


Parcells, on the other hand, stuck with Bledsoe until he had no choice.

Even Bledsoe said in training camp he didn't want Romo to see the field, because he didn't think he'd (Bledsoe) get his job back.

Parcells the dinosaur didn't want to make the switch until the season was on the brink.

And then, once we got to the playoffs... he coached his usual, out dated, scared gameplan.

And subsequently quit instead of trying to win with a stud at QB.

Again... facts.
 

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Belichick was the last coach in Cleveland to take the Browns to the playoffs. 11-5.

Modell was hell bent on moving. Wasn't spending in free agency. No coach could succeed there.

excuses and speculation. little bill is nothing without Parcells/Brady.
 
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lol Little Bill might be better at coaching up players and laying down schemes, but no way in hell can anyone say that Little Bill was better at assembling talent or coaching staffs.

I can agree that Parcells would've made a better GM since you're so willing to acknowledge Belichick is the better coach.
 
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Belichick is a good coach, but there's a reason he followed Parcells around the league for 15 years and then came grovelling back like a bitch after going 36-44 on his own.
 
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excuses and speculation. little bill is nothing without Parcells/Brady.

Actually, you're the one speculating here.

It's already proven that BP is nothing without Belichick.

It's already proven that BB can win Super Bowls without Parcells.

You're just speculating as to whether he can win without Brady.

But then again, he did take a bad Cleveland to 11-5. And he did take a Patriots team 11-5 with some hack named Matt Cassel at QB.


Oh lookie.. more them there fact things. Cool.
 

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I can agree that Parcells would've made a better GM since you're so willing to acknowledge Belichick is the better coach.

If the discussion came down to who was the better coach, I'd probably have to lean towards Little Bill. Everyone has to, look at the results.

But Parcells' haters won't let up an inch when talking about Parcells' GMing capabilities. It's always the .500 record that Vince Lombardi probably wouldn't much better that gets thrown back.
 
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Documented why. Owner hell bent on leaving.






You know what he did with Brady? He played him.

Even when Bledsoe came back healthy that year, and everyone was pressuring Belichick to play Bledsoe in that Super Bowl.

Belichick recognized the talent, and he made one hell of a difficult decision.

lol lol

Yeah that's exactly what happened.
 

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Actually, you're the one speculating here.

It's already proven that BP is nothing without Belichick.

It's already proven that BB can win Super Bowls without Parcells.

You're just speculating as to whether he can win without Brady.

But then again, he did take a bad Cleveland to 11-5. And he did take a Patriots team 11-5 with some hack named Matt Cassel at QB.


Oh lookie.. more them there fact things. Cool.

And he's nothing without Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, David Meggett, et al.

Man, that fucker had a shit load of crutches to lean on.

That Canton bust of his, if he ever gets one, I mean, how can you induct one so shitty into the HOF, is beyond me. Should have egg on it.
 
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Actually, you're the one speculating here.

It's already proven that BP is nothing without Belichick.

It's already proven that BB can win Super Bowls without Parcells.

You're just speculating as to whether he can win without Brady.

But then again, he did take a bad Cleveland to 11-5. And he did take a Patriots team 11-5 with some hack named Matt Cassel at QB.


Oh lookie.. more them there fact things. Cool.

little bill has never won anything without Parcells/Brady.
 
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Ridiculously easy schedule to get to 10-6. Started 7-3. Typical December collapse. Smoked in the playoffs.

6-10 the following year. Two mediocre 9-7 seasons followed.

Hang your hat on that if neccessary.
 
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Just an interesting double standard to talk up Belichick's 11-5 in Cleveland but brush off Parcells's wildcard birth in Dallas. Makes sense when the argument is retarded to begin with though.
 
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