Bob Sacamano
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Doug Free couldn't even get that much, I banged Sheik's sister.
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Yeah but she didnt feel anything after Free got done with her.
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Free with kosier next to him in 2010 was a good player, in 11 with Nagy/everyone else next to him his played dipped. This year with Mack next to him his play dipped again.
To act like he didn't play good in 09 and 2010 is foolish.
Gurode and Davis struggled in 09. Columbo was bad against Minnesota. Real bad.
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He may have but you know damn well he was holding her down the whole time.
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Admitting Free played well 2 years ago doesn't change the fact that he's played like shit for the last 2 years and vice versa. Sometimes I read shit on these message boards and honestly wonder how people function in real life without being able to step back and look at a situation with a level head.
The guy looked good in 2010. Only like 6 LTs gave up fewer sacks, half of those guys giving up 1 less. Playing LT he gave up 1 less sack, had 4 less penalties and like 20 less "hurries" (yes I know PFF is shit in this stat but whatever). Albeit there were a couple more hits.
His overall grade in 2010 would have been 4th best in the NFL this year for OTs.
He played well until 2011 started and then he started looking like child with the way he was getting pushed around.
He should be gone either way. No need to go revisionist history on it.
The guy looked good in 2010. Only like 6 LTs gave up fewer sacks, half of those guys giving up 1 less. Playing LT he gave up 1 less sack, had 4 less penalties and like 20 less "hurries" (yes I know PFF is shit in this stat but whatever). Albeit there were a couple more hits.
His overall grade in 2010 would have been 4th best in the NFL this year for OTs.
He played well until 2011 started and then he started looking like child with the way he was getting pushed around.
He should be gone either way. No need to go revisionist history on it.
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It really is bizarre how he just fell off the planet. Unfortunately its eerily similar to Roy Williams (OU) who was really good, then just flatlined.
But there isnt much doubt he should be released. He was poor in 2011 and seemed to be even worse this year despite the hiring of a new OL coach.
Hopefully he doesnt go elsewhere and revert to 09/10 form.
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Or just maybe the conversation was about whether or not he actually was good before, because he was and it would have been crazy not to resign him. It would have made zero sense to not resign our young left tackle coming off two good seasons and then go chase a free agent and hope he is okay when we had one in house.
He struggled in 2012. I imagine if what brad sham said was true and his knees are bothering him then that is the reason he has struggled. He is an athletic guy not a power guy, so if something is prohibiting his ability to move then that must be the culprit. Probably having inferior players lineup next to him the last two years with limited experience has exposed him some also.
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He was awful in 2011 too though.
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I heard one of the radio shows talking about this one night and they said people around the team don't understand what happened to him. They said it wasn't attitude because he was still a super hard worker like he always was.
My guess was always that he just lost his confidence. Maybe he had some nagging physical problems like theebs said.
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Its too bad, looked like we had found a gem in the 4th rd.
Like I said in other post, hopefully he doesnt go elsewhere and revert to the way he played in 09/10.
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He struggled in 11 I do t think he was awful honestly.
Rob pettiti was awful.
Having a rotating group of spare playing next to him and a struggling center in the middle probably played a part too.
Running kowalski, Nagy, out there probably didn't help. It's probably not a coincidence he was a better player with Kyle kosier next to him.
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Yep. Got a huge deal from Falcons and was a massive bust. All because someone thought beating a dinosaur RT playing on one leg was a really impressvie act.
