Cowlishaw: Media not stirring 'Manziel to Cowboys pot'

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Not that it's the defining factor but didn't he score well on the Wonderlic?
 
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This is by no means is me saying we should get him. I was so f'ing nervous we were going to draft him and was terrified when he was there at our pick.

I'm just saying in another year if Cleveland is looking to move him, I would at least inquire.

I really want the traditional 6'4" 225 big-armed pocket passer to be THE next Cowboys QB.

That's why I am all over Penn State's Christian Hackenberg even though he has really struggled without Bill O'Brien.

I do like East Carolina's Shane Carden this year but it's because he reminds me of Tony Romo.
 
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cmd34 said:
I'm just saying in another year if Cleveland is looking to move him, I would at least inquire.

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I wouldn't. First, I've been on record for two yrs saying I didn't think he'd be any good in the NFL

Second, if a team trades up for a QB in the first rd with the idea that he's the franchise and then wants to give up on him after a season or two, it says volumes about said player.
 
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Weren't we high on Jake Locker his draft year?

I could see us taking a flier on him.

Sure he sucks but that didn't keep us away from Weeden.
 
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He couldn't beat out.... Hoyer.

I think that pretty much says everything there is to say about him - at least from the Brown's standpoint.
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And Tony Romo couldn't beat out Quincy Carter when he was a rookie either.

Tom Brady couldn't beat out Drew Bledsoe.

Colin Kaepernick couldn't beat out Alex Smith.

etc.
 
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peplaw06 said:
And Tony Romo couldn't beat out Quincy Carter when he was a rookie either.

Tom Brady couldn't beat out Drew Bledsoe.

Colin Kaepernick couldn't beat out Alex Smith.

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None of those are Cleveland, the land of the 22nd pick QB jinx.

That he couldn't beat out Hoyer says more about Cleveland than it does Manziel, or even Hoyer.
 
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None of those are Cleveland, the land of the 22nd pick QB jinx.
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The point is it's not unusual for a rookie QB not to start his first season. There's a long line of great QBs who had to sit and learn for a few years.

That he couldn't beat out Hoyer says more about Cleveland than it does Manziel, or even Hoyer.
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How do you mean?
 
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This is why i say Manziel is fucking stupid. because he is.

Clubbing, brawling. Grow the fuck up.

Police Report: Johnny Manziel Involved In Massive Fight Late Friday Night at The 9 in Downtown Cleveland | Scene and Heard: Scene's News Blog | Cleveland Scene
An eager Cleveland Browns fan sparked a massive fight at The 9 when he approached Johnny Manziel and his "entourage" late Friday night, according to a police report obtained today by Scene.

Cleveland police were called to the apartment's lobby at 2:36 a.m. for a report of a "riot" involving 20 men and two security guards.

The alleged victim, 33-year-old Sandusky resident Chris Gonos, reported to police that he and his girlfriend spotted Manziel while waiting for an elevator at the high-end apartment complex, where many Cleveland professional athletes live, and professed his love to the rookie quarterback.

Gonos told police he pointed Manziel out to his girlfriend: "That's Johnny Manziel." Then he approached him.

According to the report, "at this time victim stated to the unidentified male, 'I'm the biggest Browns fan ever, I love you, I want to give you a hug.'"

Gonos stepped towards Manziel and was promptly punched in the face, the alleged victim's account to police says, followed by a beat down by Manziel's crew, giving the man a "swollen lip, right eye swollen, red face." A security guard intervened and also was hurt.

Kenny Didier, general manager of The 9, told Scene "We have no comment on any of that."

We reached out to the Browns for comment and will update with the team's response.

UPDATE: Comments from the alleged victim, Chris Gonos, about the fight.

"Yeah, it actually all started through me. We had a room — it was my brother’s birthday — so we were staying at the Metropolitan at the 9. We partied there, and at the end of the night I was going back up to my room, and I noticed the guy. I was like, 'Man, that’s Johnny Manziel.' They were trying to keep it quiet, keep it low, and I was like 'Johnny Football!' I was just excited. But anyways, I went to give him like a handshake, or dap or whatever you want to call it, one of his buddies like tackled me. It was going down, a whole bunch of people started fighting. It ended pretty quick."

"I got a bruised hip and a bruised elbow, and somebody hit me in the back of the head, too. My brother saw what was going on and he ran he tackled Johhny Manziel — I guess he got the sack and the fumble. He tackled him, yeah, I’m talking about he speared him all the way to the back wall. I was cornered; I was by myself and Johnny Manziel and like three or four of his buddies were all coming at me. (My brother) just came to help me out, and I guess Johnny sucker punched him while the security guard was holding him. It should be all on video."

"No [one was arrested], like 20 officers came and I was sitting in the lobby because I did not do anything wrong but be a fan. All these cops run into the lobby, and they’re like, “Who was fighting, who was fighting?” and I just raised my hand, and was like, listen, watch the camera, and stuff like that. I may be guilty of being a fan, but that’s about it. I even showed them the guy that sucker punched me and the cops walked right up to him, talking to him for a while, and they let us all go. They just told me I had to leave the hotel, and me and my ride, we left. Manziel never punched me, but he got a sucker punch on my brother."

"I know somebody else in the group smashed Johnny right in the face. Smashed him, smashed him. I watched the whole game to see if we could spot him on the sidelines."

Update II:
STATEMENT FROM CLEVELAND BROWNS GENERAL MANAGER RAY FARMER:

"We are aware of the incident and are in the process of gathering additional information in order to gain a complete understanding of what occurred. Nonetheless, the time of the incident is concerning to us. We continually stress to all of our players the importance of sound decision making in an effort to avoid putting themselves in these types of situations. We have addressed this appropriately with the player and will have no further comment at this time."
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He was attacked going to his elevator and his body guard protected him.

Its Manziel so everything to do with him is news, especially for the haters.
 
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How do you know that?

Even if he was... I know no other 22 year old NFL playas be goin to da clubz.
 
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You'd think the 'playas' might learn from.... I dunno, the Josh Brent case maybe? Any number of others before?

They're 'playas' to start with, and don't learn, because they are fucking stupid.
 
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