Your thoughts in regards to the future of the Cowboys

[CowboysRMX]

We can win with Romo.
We can win with Garrett.
We CANNOT win with both.
Pick one. Upgrade the other to elite. And we can win

I agree here, Id ride with Romo and kick Garrett to the curb

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Glory hole whos your top 10 qb's?


So we're 99-99 in this century and romo is what? 55-35? Can't wait til it's time for them to actually get a qb and not have one fall into their laps

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

I think Romo is top 10..but that isn't good enough in this league. Eapeially not w this team

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Peyton
Eli

Ryan/Big Ben/Romo are all interchangeable

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Id probably put Romo 8th..

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Get Romo a legitimate run game. Like the skins have or like the texans have. And we can win w romo. For sure.

Or get Garrett an elite QB like One of those top 4-5 and we can win w Garrett.

Personally I'd like to get rid of both. But maybe I'm just bitter now.

 

[CowboysRMX]

But maybe I'm just bitter now.

think alot of people are right now

 

[Theebs]

We're not delusional, we should be alot better because we really are a talented team. Yeah we have weaknesses, even the best teams do. We just continue to underachieve and shoot ourselves in the foot and be dumb nonstop.

So yeah it's kind of hopeless. Until that changes it doesn't really matter who we draft or pick up in free agency. So it's tough to be like "oh yeah if we get disruptive DLineman oh man we are gonna kill." No, he'll probably play well, show off his talent and we'll still be improbably mediocre.

This basically.

There is always some talking point type thing we are missing in players or coaches. When we get them it doesn't work out anyway.

So it's just tune in and hope essentially.

Whats bad to me is these are the years we are supposed to be winning. It's depressing.

 

[junk]

Jerry isn't going away and he isn't going to give up power. The Parcells thing was a one time deal to get his stadium. He's even admitted since then that he was miserable during that time period.

Now he's got his new stadium and he's surrounded by yes men that he feels comfortable working with. He's making money hand over first. Gosh darn it, he's mad when they lose and he has high expectations, but we'll get 'em next time. Guess what? The team plays that way too.

Not going to change and it is incredibly depressing.

As far as coaching and Romo.....look at the Niners. They were a crap sandwich until Harbaugh showed up. Now they're a Super Bowl contender who lost a nail biter in the NFC championship with Alex freakin' Smith as their QB. So, yeah, Garrett is a huge disappointment in comparison and I'm pretty sure you can compete with Romo.

If the team (Jerry) was truly interested in being a competitor, he's step out of the way and hire a GM. Jerry could work with the GM to hire a coach and let the GM fill out the scouting staff and the coach fill out his staff. Get rid of all the Garretts and Jones that have infested the front office and let someone qualified run the show. Get rid of all the yes men (Ciskowski) and eliminate the nepotism.

I'd go find a GM from one of the better run orgs in the league. GB, Baltimore, NYG, maybe the Niners. Somebody that was a former scout that had trained under a Thompson, Newsome, Reese or Baalke. Maybe someone like Joe Horitz, Chad Alexander (Hubbard Alexander's kid), George Kokinis, Eliot Wolf, Brian Gutekunst, Brian Hampton, Marc Ross, etc.

Coaches - Ray Horton, Winston Moss, Will Muschamp, Kirby Smart, ....that is probably the more difficult one to fill. Would like someone younger, but someone who has had HC experience somewhere.

Sad thing is we'll be having this same discussion about an aging Stephen and that goofy grandson with the red headed afro in 20 years.

 

[diehard2294]

I thought we could make some noise this year but after seeing the schedule I became nervous. I was hopefull Garrett and Ryan could get it together and coach em up! We had glaring holes last year and we put more emphasis on the cornerback postion as opposed to the trenches.

not to mention we are still trying to fill the safety position...

bottom line I feel like this team is snake bitten and something has to give

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Jerry isn't going away and he isn't going to give up power. The Parcells thing was a one time deal to get his stadium. He's even admitted since then that he was miserable during that time period.

Now he's got his new stadium and he's surrounded by yes men that he feels comfortable working with. He's making money hand over first. Gosh darn it, he's mad when they lose and he has high expectations, but we'll get 'em next time. Guess what? The team plays that way too.

Not going to change and it is incredibly depressing.

As far as coaching and Romo.....look at the Niners. They were a crap sandwich until Harbaugh showed up. Now they're a Super Bowl contender who lost a nail biter in the NFC championship with Alex freakin' Smith as their QB. So, yeah, Garrett is a huge disappointment in comparison and I'm pretty sure you can compete with Romo.

If the team (Jerry) was truly interested in being a competitor, he's step out of the way and hire a GM. Jerry could work with the GM to hire a coach and let the GM fill out the scouting staff and the coach fill out his staff. Get rid of all the Garretts and Jones that have infested the front office and let someone qualified run the show. Get rid of all the yes men (Ciskowski) and eliminate the nepotism.

I'd go find a GM from one of the better run orgs in the league. GB, Baltimore, NYG, maybe the Niners. Somebody that was a former scout that had trained under a Thompson, Newsome, Reese or Baalke. Maybe someone like Joe Horitz, Chad Alexander (Hubbard Alexander's kid), George Kokinis, Eliot Wolf, Brian Gutekunst, Brian Hampton, Marc Ross, etc.

Coaches - Ray Horton, Winston Moss, Will Muschamp, Kirby Smart, ....that is probably the more difficult one to fill. Would like someone younger, but someone who has had HC experience somewhere.

Sad thing is we'll be having this same discussion about an aging Stephen and that goofy grandson with the red headed afro in 20 years.

I pretty much agree w all this

 

[peplaw06]

Doesn't seem to matter who the coach is. At this point we've changed them so much and seen absolutely no change when it comes to playing DUMB football that I'm convinced this isn't something that can be fixed by a coach. No idea on how it could be fixed.

The only constant is Jones. Since he's been "in control," this team has been totally undisciplined. When you have a blind, perpetual optimist in an owner who also happens to be the GM, you end up with someone who's afraid to make the tough decisions. The owner side is trying to sell the team as a contender to line his pockets. The GM side can't cut players who are underperforming or who have outlived their worth, because of the perception that the team isn't a contender. You end up with extensions of players who shouldn't be extended, splashy trades and draft picks/maneuvering. It's a conflict of interest.

If the employees don't feel there's pressure to perform, they become undisciplined.

It's not going to be fixed until the owner is not the GM.

 

[Theebs]

Good lord with the trade ware, witten and romo stuff.

Geez you guys your all smarter than this.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Good lord with the trade ware, witten and romo stuff.

Geez you guys your all smarter than this.

There's no way you think the set up we have right now can work.

How could it?

 

[Sheik]

Our team sucks. They'll continue to suck. The current group has already been ruined. They, like every other person watching, actually believe that when push comes to shove, they will fuck it up.

 

[Theebs]

There's no way you think the set up we have right now can work.

How could it?

The setup is not any of those three's faults.

Getting rid of them won't change the setup. Nothing will.

Trade ware for two 1's and we will get Felix and Jenkins part two.

Trade romo and we don't have a qb and who knows when we will again.

Those three are cowboys until they quit. The fact that the fan base always finds fault with them is absurd.

I mean there s a ton to bitch about, those three are not part of it.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

When Jimmy Johnson was the coach, i remember Michael Irvin saying that Jimmy made losing miserable for everyone. He hated to lose and he made sure everyone was unhappy. Compare that to today where the owner/head coach goes to each players locker, pats them on the back and tells them “it’s gonna be ok!” Players are given a number of radio and tv shows and they haven’t done anything in the NFL. You play in the nicest stadium with the biggest tv and you can’t get over .500. Jerry tells the team they are America’s Team and everyone is watching, but they can’t cover a kickoff. You pull out your 20 year old Championship banners because you have nothing else to celebrate. The current Dallas Cowboys have been given everything while earning nothing.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

I can agree w that.. But as I've already mentioned...if you keep Romo, we need a better coach than Garrett. Romo isn't good enough to do it alone..or close to alone.. He needs a lot of help.

I'm ok w keeping Ware and Witten.

I don't think Garrett and Romo together are good enough. I think we have to upgrade one of them, significantly.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Firstly in this hypothetical I'm the one drafting and I'd hit home runs obvi

Secondly it's not about them being at fault, it's about the hopelessness of the franchise despite their greatness. By the time Jerry really changed anything the core 3 will have played a couple more Years of .500 ball and had no big moments to show for their troubles

It's the only humane thing to do

The setup is not any of those three's faults.

Getting rid of them won't change the setup. Nothing will.

Trade ware for two 1's and we will get Felix and Jenkins part two.

Trade romo and we don't have a qb and who knows when we will again.

Those three are cowboys until they quit. The fact that the fan base always finds fault with them is absurd.

I mean there s a ton to bitch about, those three are not part of it.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Jerry isn't going away and he isn't going to give up power. The Parcells thing was a one time deal to get his stadium. He's even admitted since then that he was miserable during that time period.

Now he's got his new stadium and he's surrounded by yes men that he feels comfortable working with. He's making money hand over first. Gosh darn it, he's mad when they lose and he has high expectations, but we'll get 'em next time. Guess what? The team plays that way too.

Not going to change and it is incredibly depressing.

As far as coaching and Romo.....look at the Niners. They were a crap sandwich until Harbaugh showed up. Now they're a Super Bowl contender who lost a nail biter in the NFC championship with Alex freakin' Smith as their QB. So, yeah, Garrett is a huge disappointment in comparison and I'm pretty sure you can compete with Romo.

If the team (Jerry) was truly interested in being a competitor, he's step out of the way and hire a GM. Jerry could work with the GM to hire a coach and let the GM fill out the scouting staff and the coach fill out his staff. Get rid of all the Garretts and Jones that have infested the front office and let someone qualified run the show. Get rid of all the yes men (Ciskowski) and eliminate the nepotism.

I'd go find a GM from one of the better run orgs in the league. GB, Baltimore, NYG, maybe the Niners. Somebody that was a former scout that had trained under a Thompson, Newsome, Reese or Baalke. Maybe someone like Joe Horitz, Chad Alexander (Hubbard Alexander's kid), George Kokinis, Eliot Wolf, Brian Gutekunst, Brian Hampton, Marc Ross, etc.

Coaches - Ray Horton, Winston Moss, Will Muschamp, Kirby Smart, ....that is probably the more difficult one to fill. Would like someone younger, but someone who has had HC experience somewhere.

Sad thing is we'll be having this same discussion about an aging Stephen and that goofy grandson with the red headed afro in 20 years.

This is an excellent post and completely correct.

Everyone says that fans become armchair GMs when things are going wrong, but I think any intelligent fan can just look at franchises who are constantly succeeding and figure out that a pretty consistent formula stands out.

Having a stud QB like Romo is 60-70% of the equation. It's a shame that they've failed to fill in the other parts. When you see what Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh did--and how quickly it worked--it's pretty sad that we're sitting here listening to this "it's a process" bullshit. It's really an insult to our intelligence. Lots of fans buy into it and hop onto the "trade Romo" and "just give Garrett 16-17 more years with full offseasons and he'll show you" bandwagons. Those are the fans that Jerry relies on for his millions.

Your formula is completely correct. It might not win us a Super Bowl every season, but at least it'll help us field a competitive product that's enjoyable to root for. Right now, it's not even fun to follow this team and Sundays are definitely not entertaining.

I don't blame anyone for abandoning ship and finding other more fun things to do on Sunday. I'm not saying to start rooting for another team, but it's definitely stupid and robotic to emotionally invest yourself into a team that sucks pure donkey dick. A true fan shouldn't have to put up with ginger's orange-glowing travelling family circus act.