Romo at #76 In PFT's Top 100
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Had Romo managed to avoid a few meltdowns in the past couple of season, the Cowboys probably could have gotten into the playoffs. So he shares some of the blame.
But I'd place much more of the blame elsewhere (Jerry, Jason, the OL, etc.).
Romo is a better QB than Jerry is a GM.
Romo is a better QB than Jason is a Head Coach.
But I'd place much more of the blame elsewhere (Jerry, Jason, the OL, etc.).
Romo is a better QB than Jerry is a GM.
Romo is a better QB than Jason is a Head Coach.
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Without a doubt.
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Name them.
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Nearly 5,000 yards, and 29 TDs. You're right.
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Really? There are a lot of things wrong with this team and Romo isn't even nearly the biggest issue. To make that claim is at best intellectually dishonest.
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The guy was a turnover machine last year, and his turnovers played just a big a part in us losing a number of games as his 29 TD's helped.
Who put us in that hole vs the Giants in game at Dallas? He did. 3 picks in the 1st half.
Who couldn't stop turning the ball over against the Bears? Romo
Who completely shit the bed against the Redskins in the season finale when the game was there for the taking? Romo.
I don't know why it is so hard for some people to admit that Romo's failure to protect the ball is a huge handicap at times for this team.
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Huh?
How could I name them until I see who it is that replaces him.
The idea though that he is the greatest player of all time and cant be replaced is a joke though. He can be replaced.
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Not being in the top-100 of players has nothing to do with what you just said.
There are 32 teams in the league you know.
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Its like there can only be one side or another, nobody can see in the middle with him.
Romo is a good player, but he has flaws. Some of the flaws he has today are the same that he had the day he took over as a starter. He can go on stretches during a game or soemtimes even multiple games where he is amazingly good, but he also has these other stretches when he clearly hurts the team with his decision making.
I like Romo, but I'm not one of these yayhoos that believe the ONLY possible way we can be good is with him. The fact is we havent been that great with him, and he has a poor record in the postseason and late season games that mean something.
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See, I agree with this.
Romo is a good QB, not a great one. And contrary to this ridiculous myth, he isn't being held back by no defense and no line and this and that. Would he benefit from better protection? Absolutely.
Would we probably win more games with a defense that didn't choke away leads or fail to hold up in the 2 min drill? Of course.
But what Romo supporters fail to acknowledge is that we'd also win a number of games that we've lost if he would take better care of the football. He's not going to turn into Tom Brady just because he has a better defense or more protection. The guy is what he is at this point.
Remember 2011? He practically single-handedly lost the Jets opener as well as the Lions 24 point comeback. His 2 turnovers in the 2nd half vs the Jets completely screwed us, and the Lions game was an epic meltdown from a QB as I've ever seen.
I used to hate the guy, especially after 2008 which along with last year, was his worst season to date. But after a while, I began to kinda feel sorry for him and I like the guy. I want him to win.....I really do. But I can deal with reality and the eye test has shown us one too many times that he's too erratic to ever win big.
If by some miracle we actually got the NFCC or even the Super Bowl, I would be scared shitless of what the guy might do to fail.
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Are you saying you don't think it was arguably his worst season?
Look at every year that he has started a full season. Along with 2008, he was a turnover machine. His TD to INT ratio wasn't very good either.
His deep ball, which has been his best throw for years, was way off last year and almost always underthrown.
How about his propensity to keep tossing that stupid shovel pass in traffic which led to turnovers in back to back games vs Tampa and Chicago?
It was not a good year for him.
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I don't think most people are really that all-or-nothing on Romo... Are they?
I think he's a top QB in this league today, however you define that. Top 5? Probably not. Top 7-8? Yes.
No, he's not perfect. But he's good enough to go deep into the playoffs without a doubt. And we're lucky to have him, because we could be in Quincy/Hutch/Vinny/Rex Grossman/Nick Foles purgatory.
I think he's a top QB in this league today, however you define that. Top 5? Probably not. Top 7-8? Yes.
No, he's not perfect. But he's good enough to go deep into the playoffs without a doubt. And we're lucky to have him, because we could be in Quincy/Hutch/Vinny/Rex Grossman/Nick Foles purgatory.
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We've had far more seasons with good to excellent QB than bad ones.
People go WAY overboard with the bad QB play here. Maybe because its fresh on their minds from 2001-2004 or something. But the fact is for the majority of this franchise's existance, we've had really good QB's. Meredith, Morton and White were all good QB's. Aikman and Staubach were elite QB's. Their years FAR outnumber than Q-Bong/Pelleur years
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Yes, we were lucky to have great QBs for many years. But how does that have any bearing whatsoever on today?
That's like assuming we're more likely to win Superbowls today because we did it decades ago. We all know that's not the case.
That's like assuming we're more likely to win Superbowls today because we did it decades ago. We all know that's not the case.
No. I don't think that at all.
Looking beyond stats, he had no run game. He had no defense. And Witten, Miles, and Dez all spent part of the year injured.
He had a head coach who had to scrap gameplans at the half every week and never went into half time with more than 10 points.
We relied on Romo's heroics to keep hope alive all season long.
I mean, my god... those almost comebacks against New York, Washington, Baltimore, and New Orleans were incredible.
I honestly think it was one of his best seasons, but again he had almost no supporting cast.
But I don't want to argue all day so you can have the last (wrong) word and we'll agree to disagree.
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Nu unh. One time Nate Livings dominated Calias Campbell. That more than makes up for 15 games of crap. Give that man millions!
Also, Mackenzy Bernadeau couldn't crack a Carolina line-up that was desperate for improved Guard play. Millionaire time!
Phil Costa is getting married to Hulk Hogan's daughter. In Jerry math that is clearly worth 2 wins.
The O Line is finnnne. Find a new team if you can't see that.