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I wouldn't say the first two but when Orlando scandrick is currently your best cb you definitely have to keep ur options open.

But IF it came down to WR or CB in the first.. I'm taking a corner.

Speaking of that... Was on the road yesterday and heard some of the Stretch Smith-Tim McMahon football show. It was pretty good. Smith was saying that he popped in three games at random the night before to review a few things and said our corners were flatly bad. Very bad. Said Scandrick was definitely our best corner last year. Also said there was no way we pay Carr all that money next year, so don't be surprised if we take a corner in round 2-3.

Other things I thought were interesting: He is very high on CJ Mosely and says he would draft him and put him a MLB, then move Sean Lee to WLB to take some of the hits off him. When McMahon said Steven told the media recently they hadn't even discussed moving Lee, Smith laughed and said what a lie, I know for a fact they have because one of Jerry's best buddies who was on the way to the Kentucky Derby the day before (Lacewell, I'm guessing) was talking about it weeks ago.

Also said we should draft a QB soon. Said if one of the best ones fell to us, we should, or even have, to take him. He seemed to like Bortles. His favorite sort of second-tier QB was Savage. One thing he said that you guys probably knew but I didn't because I give way less of a shit than I used to -- he said Murray had a TERRIBLE pro day workout. Said in his opinion, Pro Days don't mean much for any position except QB. He thinks they're very important for QBs, because if you're any good you should be practically perfect against air.
 
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and said our corners were flatly bad. Very bad. Said Scandrick was definitely our best corner last year. Also said there was no way we pay Carr all that money next year, so don't be surprised if we take a corner in round 2-3.

Everyone saw it. Claiborne and Carr were AWFUL. The whole defenese was bad, but the CBs were especially bad. It's very disappointing to pay Carr what we did and for him to just mail it in. Same with Claiborne. We need a better screening process for these players.
 
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I mean I'll watch and stuff (until the challenge comes on) but I don't know who any of these guys are. I'll basically just be like oh cool we drafted a fat black dude (hopefully)
 
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But in three years I'll still be posting "I liked him in the draft" when players do well so you guys will respect me.
 

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That's when you trade down. Taking a wide reciever would be absolutely crazy.

Trading down last year and taking Williams is looking really good right now.

All I heard was how dumb Jerry was for getting raped in the trade.
 

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All I heard was how dumb Jerry was for getting raped in the trade.

At the time it looked like he got raped because 99% of the time he does, but it's keeping us from overpaying for a 2nd WR in free agency with money we don't have.
 

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Forgot one more thing, he thinks we need a true free safety and likes Dix (heh). McMahon asked what about Wilcox and Smith basically said he didn't know if he was smart enough. McMahon gave the excuses about his mom dying, mild knee injury, etc causing him to miss practices and Smith basically said I don't know if you can teach that stuff even with more reps, that it's more instincts. MacMahon asked about Pryor and a couple of safeties I didn't know about (one from Toledo I think?) and Smith said I'm tired of box safeties, joker type guys, I want a centerfielder ballhawk type who can cover.
 
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I think cara Maria is looking fucking smoking, it was funny how all the blacks got all the votes, I like how the challenges seem more pain Influenced and less puzzles for dummies, we need a CT and Zach battle
 

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I heard Stephen said our safeties will be Wilcox and Church. We'll still need some insurance in case one of them gets hurt. I wouldn't be opposed to a safety in round 1 or 2.
 
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I think cara Maria is looking fucking smoking, it was funny how all the blacks got all the votes, I like how the challenges seem more pain Influenced and less puzzles for dummies, we need a CT and Zach battle

I missed the first two episodes. Glad Frank got kicked off because of his AIDS.

Why is Preston there. Jesus Christ.

Pretty sure laurel has a penis.
 
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Zach is a beast but he's a pure meathead and he'll lose his cool/patience against any legit male competitor. That duel he did with Brandon he's basically unbeatable in. Him and CT heads up there would be good for ppv...
 

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Speaking of that... Was on the road yesterday and heard some of the Stretch Smith-Tim McMahon football show. It was pretty good. Smith was saying that he popped in three games at random the night before to review a few things and said our corners were flatly bad. Very bad. Said Scandrick was definitely our best corner last year. Also said there was no way we pay Carr all that money next year, so don't be surprised if we take a corner in round 2-3.

Pass rush (which was non existant) was far worse than the CB's, if he cant see that then he is sdogo like in terms of scouting ability.


Other things I thought were interesting: He is very high on CJ Mosely and says he would draft him and put him a MLB, then move Sean Lee to WLB to take some of the hits off him. When McMahon said Steven told the media recently they hadn't even discussed moving Lee, Smith laughed and said what a lie, I know for a fact they have because one of Jerry's best buddies who was on the way to the Kentucky Derby the day before (Lacewell, I'm guessing) was talking about it weeks ago.

Sounds like one of those Hos like stories to me.

Also said we should draft a QB soon. Said if one of the best ones fell to us, we should, or even have, to take him. He seemed to like Bortles. His favorite sort of second-tier QB was Savage. One thing he said that you guys probably knew but I didn't because I give way less of a shit than I used to -- he said Murray had a TERRIBLE pro day workout. Said in his opinion, Pro Days don't mean much for any position except QB. He thinks they're very important for QBs, because if you're any good you should be practically perfect against air

If he did nobody else is really talking about it, and locally they had been saying he worked out pretty well.

The guy I remember everyone saying was awful at his pro day was Bridgewater.
 

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Everyone saw it. Claiborne and Carr were AWFUL. The whole defenese was bad, but the CBs were especially bad. It's very disappointing to pay Carr what we did and for him to just mail it in. Same with Claiborne. We need a better screening process for these players.

I dont care what you have at CB, you dont rush the passer you get eaten up. Its compounded even more when you have safeties that play in space as bad as ours did.
 

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He never said the CBs were worse than the pass rush...

Also, Smith had the Kiffin hire before anyone. He came in with Switzer and is close with Lacewell and that whole gang. You don't think he knows more than this Hos person?
 
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