Mike Jenkins Drew Rosenhaus stuff

[Theebs]

So listening to the pregame show Mike Fisher was on with the fan guys and he said that there is some beef with the cowboys and rosenhaus and that they feel he is in jenkins ear and is advising him to pout and seem disinterested.

Mickey spagnola has been saying very loudly for about 10 days now the cowboys are very upset that jenkins is not on the field and they feel he should have been on the field awhile ago and that he is not putting in and hasnt put in the effort to get back.

Fisher suggested yesterday that rosenhaus has been telling jenkins to act like this to get traded. Not sure I buy this.

it does make sense to me though connecting the dots. Jenkins gets hurt and stays away on purpose, felix with a similar injury and surgery is already back...jenkins is still pouting around.

last week there was that odd story about rosenhaus paying dez and his people to sign with him.......

I wonder if the cowboys put that story out there through David west in an eye for an eye type thing......For instance you are messing with our business by advising jenkins to do the opposite of what we told him to and so take this.

Mickey on thursday on talking cowboys was very adamant that the team is dissapointed and feels he should have been out there but since he has loafed around he isnt.

Not sure what to make of all this but I found it interesting and if its true and jenkins is playing a game to get out, thats bad on his part. He could be out there being part of what looks to be a really good defense.

 

[cmd34]

Trade him and get something for him before losing him for nothing next off-season. Orlando Scandrick and Mario Butler have stepped up this camp in his absence.

If he is pulling this crap now how much "cadillac'ing" is he going to be doing Week 15, when all he'll care about is signing with a new team in a few months.

Trade him.

 

[dbair1967]

Eh, when one of the most prominent orthopedic surgeons in the world has stated the guy isnt cleared to play, it kinds discounts alot of this IMO.

 

[Theebs]

Trade him and get something for him before losing him for nothing next off-season. Orlando Scandrick and Mario Butler have stepped up this camp in his absence.

If he is pulling this crap now how much "cadillac'ing" is he going to be doing Week 15, when all he'll care about is signing with a new team in a few months.

Trade him.

they need him to get cleared by the damn doctor......

If vontae davis can flip a 2 and 6 jenkins can also.....

having an extra two and a 6 would be tremendous next year.....

 

[dbair1967]

By the way, who would trade for him if he cant pass a physical? And even if someone were to bypass that, what do you people honestly think we're getting in return?

I think at the least he has to show he is healthy first, and according to James Andrews, he isnt. Andrews has forgot more about shoulder and elbow surgery than anyone else will ever know.

 

[dbair1967]

they need him to get cleared by the damn doctor......

If vontae davis can flip a 2 and 6 jenkins can also.....

...

Not if he cant pass a physical Theebs

 

[Theebs]

Eh, when one of the most prominent orthopedic surgeons in the world has stated the guy isnt cleared to play, it kinds discounts alot of this IMO.

except the team thinks he didnt do enough to get back based on rosenhaus advisement.....this is there beef apparently that he pouted and didnt work hard and now he is on the sideline, good to no one.

and we have to eat up a roster spot for him on thursday morning.

 

[Theebs]

Not if he cant pass a physical Theebs

right, but I bet he does this week when he see's the doctor. Again, there point, he didnt put in the work to get back.

 

[dbair1967]

except the team thinks he didnt do enough to get back based on rosenhaus advisement.....this is there beef apparently that he pouted and didnt work hard and now he is on the sideline, good to no one.

and we have to eat up a roster spot for him on thursday morning.

No they dont, they can put him on PUP

 

[dbair1967]

right, but I bet he does this week when he see's the doctor. Again, there point, he didnt put in the work to get back.

I really have no idea if he did or didnt, but any agent trying to parlay a trade and a subsequent big payday for his client wouldnt advise that the guy turn lazy, pout and be unable to practice or even pass a physical because of such activity to force such a trade.

Thats why I think all of it is b/s IMO

 

[Theebs]

No they dont, they can put him on PUP

already said they wont.

Imagine how much pouting he will do if he knows he isnt playing till the end of october.....plus then he will be devalued even more in trying to trade him.

I am with cmd, get him through the clearance this week with dr.andrews and then get him into a few practices and move him. We might as well get what we can for him to help the club long term and go with butler and wilson/free agent as the 4 and 5

 

[Theebs]

I really have no idea if he did or didnt, but any agent trying to parlay a trade and a subsequent big payday for his client wouldnt advise that the guy turn lazy, pout and be unable to practice or even pass a physical because of such activity to force such a trade.

Thats why I think all of it is b/s IMO

Are you familiar with Drew Rosenhaus?

 

[dbair1967]

already said they wont.

Imagine how much pouting he will do if he knows he isnt playing till the end of october.....plus then he will be devalued even more in trying to trade him.

I am with cmd, get him through the clearance this week with dr.andrews and then get him into a few practices and move him. We might as well get what we can for him to help the club long term and go with butler and wilson/free agent as the 4 and 5

Not saying I dont think he wont be traded, but I think their conspiracy theory is all b/s

He had major shoulder reconstruction and apparently it was worse than anyone thought initially, or maybe they knew all along and thats why they broke the bank for Carr and moved up for Caliborne.

 

[dbair1967]

Are you familiar with Drew Rosenhaus?

Yes, he's a goon but he isnt that stupid

 

[cmd34]

dbair, you realize Dr. Andrews legally can't say anything regarding Jenkins injury without Jenkins's consent?

Even if he wasn't limited by doctor patient confidentiality what business sense would it make for Andrews to call out Jenkins or say anything negative about him?

Is Andrew supposed to say "Jenkins is fine. I cleared him weeks ago. He's a pussy." ?

Jenkins has clearly gone into "pout mode" since the second we drafted Claiborne.

 

[dbair1967]

dbair, you realize Dr. Andrews legally can't say anything regarding Jenkins injury without Jenkins's consent?

Even if he wasn't limited by doctor patient confidentiality what business sense would it make for Andrews to call out Jenkins or say anything negative about him?

Is Andrew supposed to say "Jenkins is fine. I cleared him weeks ago. He's a pussy." ?

Jenkins has clearly gone into "pout mode" since the second we drafted Claiborne.

You know it was reported by everyone (ie, news agency that covers the team, including the teams own website) that Andrews CLEARLY said Jenkins wasnt cleared to practice, right?

What do "not cleared" mean?

 

[Theebs]

Not saying I dont think he wont be traded, but I think their conspiracy theory is all b/s

He had major shoulder reconstruction and apparently it was worse than anyone thought initially, or maybe they knew all along and thats why they broke the bank for Carr and moved up for Caliborne.

it could be bs...

fisher has been money this camp though, this is his first time being back around the cowboys in forever and he has had some great info on a daily basis. I think because of his old ties he has some ins with the front office and gets good info....So I wouldnt be suprised if this was coming from a family member off the record.

 

[cmd34]

You know it was reported by everyone (ie, news agency that covers the team, including the teams own website) that Andrews CLEARLY said Jenkins wasnt cleared to practice, right?

What do "not cleared" mean?

Dr. Andrews : "Does it hurt when you lift your arm."
Mike Jenkins : "uhhh....yes? "

Not cleared.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Dr. Andrews : "Does it hurt when you lift your arm."
Mike Jenkins : "uhhh....yes? "

Not cleared.

lol

although I'd like to think that Mr. Andrews is making as much money as he is due to looking at x-rays and the like.

 

[dbair1967]

Dr. Andrews : "Does it hurt when you lift your arm."
Mike Jenkins : "uhhh....yes? "

Not cleared.

thats not how it works

and again, if he really wanted to force a trade, he isnt improving his value by not being healthy enough to pass a physical or play