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I see alot of people saying things like "he is not a star calibar player"..."he isnt a probowler"..."he isnt this or he isnt that" when considering our options at 14.
So I looked at the last 6 drafts for picks 11-17, I took 3 up and 3 down assuming most teams would have somewhat similar ratings on guys in that ranage. Isnt much you can do in terms of last years picks, they all need more time:
2011- JJ Watt, Christian Ponder, Nick Fairley, Robert Quinn, Mike Pouncey, Ryan Kerrigan, Nate Solder
2010- Anthony Davis, Ryan Matthews, Barndon Graham, Earl Thomas, JP Paul, Derrick Morgan, Mike Iupati
2009- Aaron Maybin, Knowshwon Moreno, Brian Orakpo, Malcolm Jenkins, Brian Cushing, Larry English, Josh Freeman
2008- Leodis McKelvin, Ryan Clady, Johathan Stewart, Chris Williams, Barndon Albert, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Gosder Cherilus
2007- Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Adam Karriker, Darrelle Revis, Lawrence Timmons, Justin Harrell, Jarvis Moss
2006- Jay Cutler, Haloti Ngata, Kamerion Wimbley, Broderick Bunkley, Tye Hill, Jason Allen, Chad Greenway
I bolded the ones I knew for sure made probowls, I know a few others may have.
But if you discount last yr, thats 35 players drafted in the other 5 drafts and 5 players I know for sure are probowlers. There might be 2 or 3 more from the list above, meaning that at best only about 20% of the players drafted in this range are "probowl" calibar players. Many are very good starters though. Some of them may not be "elite" or "probowl calibar" but many are good enough to be considered integral part of their team.
Why do I mention this? Because drafting where we are I think some need to drop the unrealistic expectation of thinking the 14th pick HAS to be a guy you consider a "probowl calibar" guy. It also shows that if a guy is considered a plug and play solid contributor from day one that he is well worth the pick.
So I looked at the last 6 drafts for picks 11-17, I took 3 up and 3 down assuming most teams would have somewhat similar ratings on guys in that ranage. Isnt much you can do in terms of last years picks, they all need more time:
2011- JJ Watt, Christian Ponder, Nick Fairley, Robert Quinn, Mike Pouncey, Ryan Kerrigan, Nate Solder
2010- Anthony Davis, Ryan Matthews, Barndon Graham, Earl Thomas, JP Paul, Derrick Morgan, Mike Iupati
2009- Aaron Maybin, Knowshwon Moreno, Brian Orakpo, Malcolm Jenkins, Brian Cushing, Larry English, Josh Freeman
2008- Leodis McKelvin, Ryan Clady, Johathan Stewart, Chris Williams, Barndon Albert, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Gosder Cherilus
2007- Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Adam Karriker, Darrelle Revis, Lawrence Timmons, Justin Harrell, Jarvis Moss
2006- Jay Cutler, Haloti Ngata, Kamerion Wimbley, Broderick Bunkley, Tye Hill, Jason Allen, Chad Greenway
I bolded the ones I knew for sure made probowls, I know a few others may have.
But if you discount last yr, thats 35 players drafted in the other 5 drafts and 5 players I know for sure are probowlers. There might be 2 or 3 more from the list above, meaning that at best only about 20% of the players drafted in this range are "probowl" calibar players. Many are very good starters though. Some of them may not be "elite" or "probowl calibar" but many are good enough to be considered integral part of their team.
Why do I mention this? Because drafting where we are I think some need to drop the unrealistic expectation of thinking the 14th pick HAS to be a guy you consider a "probowl calibar" guy. It also shows that if a guy is considered a plug and play solid contributor from day one that he is well worth the pick.