Kyle Wilber against Clemson

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I'm not saying you're wrong about him.


but 2 solid practices = beast ?

Kool-aid is yummy.

Oh, so you're saying he could be a beast ad he could also not be a beast

That's top notch analysis right here!

I can play this game too
 

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I hope Rob can coach him up, because while a good athlete, he plays pretty meh.

Agreed.

The 4th round was a good round for Wilber. Productive player for a major college program with undeniable physical gifts. Just I don't think we should expect too much from him.

Wake is not a major college program.

Unless, of course, you're talking about golf or basketball.

Wake Forest is usually the cellar of the ACC in football.
 

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Agreed.



Wake is not a major college program.

Unless, of course, you're talking about golf or basketball.

Wake Forest is usually the cellar of the ACC in football.

Anyone real good ever even come out of wake? in football
 
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Agreed.



Wake is not a major college program.

Unless, of course, you're talking about golf or basketball.

Wake Forest is usually the cellar of the ACC in football.

Who the hell would be talking NCAA golf?
 

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Agreed.



Wake is not a major college program.

Unless, of course, you're talking about golf or basketball.

Wake Forest is usually the cellar of the ACC in football.

They were this close to winning the ACC last year.
 

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They were this close to winning the ACC last year.

Ok, almost winning their conference one year makes them a major college program? And saying that is a stretch since two teams (Clemson and VT) had better records and 3 other teams had the same record. Oh, and their overall record was 6-7. And the year before that they were 3-9.

Since 1900, only two division one teams have a worse winning percentage than them. In fact, in 1994 they actually had the losingest record in Division 1 history.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, and just look at WFU over the past ten years. They have the 69th best winning percentage.
 
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Let's move Wake Forest to NAIA then.

Wilber = small school player.

What if I said that Wilber was from a large FBS program with the resources to recruit top college athletes, say the opposite of a Loyola Marymount. Would that have measured up to your exacting standards, Mr. ANSI?
 
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Ok, almost winning their conference one year makes them a major college program? And saying that is a stretch since two teams (Clemson and VT) had better records and 3 other teams had the same record. Oh, and their overall record was 6-7. And the year before that they were 3-9.

Since 1900, only two division one teams have a worse winning percentage than them. In fact, in 1994 they actually had the losingest record in Division 1 history.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, and just look at WFU over the past ten years. They have the 69th best winning percentage.

Doesn't playing in a major conference for over 20+ years make you a major football program?

Also Wake has been in the top of the conference over the last 5 years not the bottom.
 

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Doesn't playing in a major conference for over 20+ years make you a major football program?

No. If they performed well, then you could possible argue that. It would be like calling Duke a major football program. They are also in ACC.

Also Wake has been in the top of the conference over the last 5 years not the bottom.

Wake has 1 more win than loss in the past 10 years, including 2002. In the past 5 years, they have had two good seasons, and this year was ok (2 teams with better records, 3 with the same, they were 3rd in their division of the ACC). In their two good years they were 8-5, and 9-4. In the other years they were 5-7, 3-9, and 6-7, and those were the last 3 years.

Listen. It was originally said that WFU was a major football program. It is clearly not. I don't know how many different ways I can explain it, and illustrate it through their record and their history.
 

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No. If they performed well, then you could possible argue that. It would be like calling Duke a major football program. They are also in ACC.



Wake has 1 more win than loss in the past 10 years, including 2002. In the past 5 years, they have had two good seasons, and this year was ok (2 teams with better records, 3 with the same, they were 3rd in their division of the ACC). In their two good years they were 8-5, and 9-4. In the other years they were 5-7, 3-9, and 6-7, and those were the last 3 years.

Listen. It was originally said that WFU was a major football program. It is clearly not. I don't know how many different ways I can explain it, and illustrate it through their record and their history.

The fact remains Wilber played against major football competition which is what Bob was saying when he made the original comment.

The ranking of how good Wake is as a program has nothing to do when evaluating a player.
 

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The fact remains Wilber played against major football competition which is what Bob was saying when he made the original comment.

The ranking of how good Wake is as a program has nothing to do when evaluating a player.

Exactly, just pointing out that Wilber wasn't a small school joe. But buckup wanted to be a super literal douche about it.
 

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Exactly, just pointing out that Wilber wasn't a small school joe. But buckup wanted to be a super literal douche about it.

Right.

I was agreeing with your OP. I was just pointing out that Wake was not a big time football school. You're the ass-hat idiot that wanted to argue about that instead of saying, "Oh yeah, I guess you're right," and moving on.

Move on.
 

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Right.

I was agreeing with your OP. I was just pointing out that Wake was not a big time football school. You're the ass-hat idiot that wanted to argue about that instead of saying, "Oh yeah, I guess you're right," and moving on.

Move on.

It's a major college football program is it not? I wasn't trying to say that they were BCS contenders every year, dipstick.

The only thing suggested in my OP is that it is ideal to pick-up someone who played for a major college program with obvious upside in the middle rounds of the draft.
 
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It's a major college football program is it not? I wasn't trying to say that they were BCS contenders every year, dipstick.

The only thing suggested in my OP is that it is ideal to pick-up someone who played for a major college program with obvious upside in the middle rounds of the draft.

:roythehammer

Here you go still arguing. Shut the hell up about it if you don't want to talk about it. You said major program. Wake's football team is historically terrible, and 4 medicore to good seasons in ten years doesn't change that. They are not a major football program. They do not do well on a yearly basis. They are not seen as a program that kids want to go to in order to play at a powerhouse or to be contenders in their own half of the ACC, much less the entire ACC, much less the top 25.

It was an off the cuff remark about Wake Forest that you decided to latch on to, despite being dead wrong, and that you can't let go of, despite being dead wrong.
 
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