Kiper & McShay Big Boards 12.5.12

[dbair1967]

McShay

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...cracked-top-32

1. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
2. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
3. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M
4. Chance Warmack G Alabama
5. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame

6. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M
7. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
8. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
9. Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
10. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.

11. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina
12. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
13. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
14. Dion Jordan DE Oregon
15. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan

16. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
17. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
18. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
19. Corey Lemonier* DE Auburn
20. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan

21. Ezekiel Ansah* DE BYU
22. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
23. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
24. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee
25. Cornellius Carradine DE Florida St.

26. Kawann Short DT Purdue
27. Matt Barkley QB USC
28. Keenan Allen* WR California
29. Dallas Thomas T Tennessee
30. Zach Ertz* TE Stanford
31. Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi St.
32. Tyler Eifert* TE Notre Dame

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Kiper

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...spot-big-board

1. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
2. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
3. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
4. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M
5. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M

6. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
7. Chance Warmack G Alabama
8. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.
9. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
10. Anthony Barr* OLB UCLA

11. Cordarrelle Patterson* WR Tennessee
12. Sheldon Richardson* DT Missouri
13. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan
14. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
15. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina

16. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
17. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
18. Tyler Eifert* TE Notre Dame
19. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
20. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas

21. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
22. Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers
23. Shariff Floyd* DT Florida
24. Matt Barkley QB USC
25. Geno Smith QB West Virginia

 

[cmd34]

I like Warmack, a lot actually, but if he's the 4th best player in the draft, then this is weak draft.

 

[cmd34]

Also, McShay is higher on Sylvester Williams than all of the other draft gurus.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I like Kiper having Anthony Barr at 10. This kid is going to be a monster.

 

[cmd34]

I like Kiper having Anthony Barr at 10. This kid is going to be a monster.

He may be this year's Bruce Irvin. Smaller, speedy guy who many think will be a 2nd rounder but someone grabs early.

Barr is a true 3-4 OLB too. Great pass rusher and solid cover guy. AN issue might be his ability to hold up against the run.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Von Miller and Bruce Irvin to an extent have already paved the way for the dude to be taken pretty high.

He probably would hold up against the run better than Victor Butler.

 

[cmd34]

Von Miller and Bruce Irvin to an extent have already paved the way for the dude to be taken pretty high.

He probably would hold up against the run better than Victor Butler.

Dan Bailey would probably hold up against the run better than Victor Butler.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You couldn't.

 

[dbair1967]

Also, McShay is higher on Sylvester Williams than all of the other draft gurus.

"McShay" and "draft guru"

Unless the word "not" precedes "draft guru" none of the above go together.