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Not sure exactly what we'd learn, I'm sure her and her attorney would be pushing for some kind of "deal" to do this, and I guess she is already a proven liar on many things.

That said, Bondi fucked this up really bad and they have to do some major damage control.

 

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Men having sex with underaged girls (or boys as I am sure is the case with some of these sick people) is not something that's blown out of proportion.

It happened. These people are guilty of horrific crimes and not one single person has been brought to justice over it.
I am not diminishing the crime of pedophilia. But that is not what this is about really. This is yet another conspiracy theory that is based more on hopeful thinking than facts. I get it. Bondi and others fell into it and made a stupid show of it early on and now they are stuck with nothing to offer. But this issue has become a case of never enough. Once the conspiracy theorists get entrenched, there is no breaking them from their thinking, no matter what evidence is produced.

Look at what is happened with this video that they released showing no one entered the area of Epstein's cell the night he died. They released a 12 hour video of that night with a 1 minute 1 second gap. The explanation given was the recording system is antiquated and recycles every night at the same time. Every night has a 1 minute gap. People are ignoring that. But the fact is, no one could have killed Epstein in 1 minute, staged the scene and left in 1 minute. So now they are on this new claim about the video files missing 2 minutes and 58 seconds. Still not enough time to kill Epstein, but they want to make a huge deal out of it. The problem is the same though. The file that was truncated was either the beginning of the first file or the end of the 2nd file, which is irrelevant to the case. The 12 hour video has a continuous time stamp, minus that 1 minute. No one has claimed that the time stamp was modified or added after the fact. Any manipulation of the content of any frame would be easily detectable.

But the theorists are still making it into a huge deal.

At this point, some people are convinced there is something in the Epstein files that implicates people they want implicated. I believe it there was such evidence, it was obliterated long ago. Epstein is dead, his partner in crime is in prison. They got what they deserved.
 

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Not sure exactly what we'd learn, I'm sure her and her attorney would be pushing for some kind of "deal" to do this, and I guess she is already a proven liar on many things.

That said, Bondi fucked this up really bad and they have to do some major damage control.


Nonsense. Maxwell is in prison and currently appealing her case. She is trying to get out of prison. She will say whatever helps her appeal, and she will not say anything that hurts her case. Whatever she had to say, should could have and should have said it during her trial. What can she say now? She certainly cannot contradict her previous statements.
 

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Does everyone remember when Democrats demanded Trump release his tax returns? The House Ways and Means committee, chair by a Democrat demanded Trump give them his tax returns. Trump fought it. Democrats took him to court and eventually the Supreme Court rule Trump had to turn them over to the committee. Democrats were all over media making all kinds of wild claims about how Trump's tax returns would connect him to Russia and show all kinds of criminal activity. They could smell another impeachment. But, when Trump released his tax returns there was nothing in them and the story died.

What made the story a story is that Trump refused to release his tax returns. The same thing is happening now with the Epstein files. What's in the Epstein files will be less of a story than the speculation for why they have not been released.
 

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I don't know if you'll find many, if any interviews, where he talks about releasing the files. He did mention that he doesn't want to hurt innocent people with baseless claims and false or fake information.

This guy has already shown us who he is. He tells you what he thinks, whether you like it or not. And I do agree with him that we shouldn't get too caught up in the Epstein BS. There are bigger fish to fry and bigger problems to solve.
 

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It's a Babylon Bee meme... I don't feel strongly about this subject in either direction, because for whatever that slime-ball did, it has not gone unpunished as some claim. He's in hell dealing with far worse than life in prison riding on a man made plea deal.
 

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This latest story from the Wal St. Journal about Trump sending Epstein a birthday card for his 50th birthday is such a slimy hit piece and a non-story. Fist some details a lot of folks are leaving out. Epstein turned 50 in 2003. At that time Trump was not married. He married Melania ins 2005. Also, it is important to note that the first Epstein investigation and prosecution did not begin until 20025. So in 2003 the public did not know what Epstein was up to and there is no reason to believe Trump did either. It was 2007 when Trump banned Epstein from all his properties.

What is really dishonest and irksome about the Wall St. Journal article is it makes it seem like Trump was a key player with Epstein, and no one else was involved. Meanwhile we know Bill Clinton and Bill Gates visited Epstein Island many times, and who knows who else.

As for the letter, the Wall St. Journal admits they do not have a copy and cannot verify its authenticity. They published the story anyway. This is what passes for journalism in 2025.
 

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I don't know if you'll find many, if any interviews, where he talks about releasing the files. He did mention that he doesn't want to hurt innocent people with baseless claims and false or fake information.

This guy has already shown us who he is. He tells you what he thinks, whether you like it or not. And I do agree with him that we shouldn't get too caught up in the Epstein BS. There are bigger fish to fry and bigger problems to solve.
old rich dudes raped young girls (or in some cases, young boys)...people need to be fucking fried in the chair
 

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This latest story from the Wal St. Journal about Trump sending Epstein a birthday card for his 50th birthday is such a slimy hit piece and a non-story. Fist some details a lot of folks are leaving out. Epstein turned 50 in 2003. At that time Trump was not married. He married Melania ins 2005. Also, it is important to note that the first Epstein investigation and prosecution did not begin until 20025. So in 2003 the public did not know what Epstein was up to and there is no reason to believe Trump did either. It was 2007 when Trump banned Epstein from all his properties.

What is really dishonest and irksome about the Wall St. Journal article is it makes it seem like Trump was a key player with Epstein, and no one else was involved. Meanwhile we know Bill Clinton and Bill Gates visited Epstein Island many times, and who knows who else.

As for the letter, the Wall St. Journal admits they do not have a copy and cannot verify its authenticity. They published the story anyway. This is what passes for journalism in 2025.
A total smear piece. Trump should bury them. F. the WSJ.
 

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A total smear piece. Trump should bury them. F. the WSJ.
He has already said he is going after WSJ and Murdoch. He may own the shitpile newspaper and FOX News both after this.

He said he personally told Murdoch it was a complete sham and not to run it, and he did it anyway.
 

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old rich dudes raped young girls (or in some cases, young boys)...people need to be fucking fried in the chair

Epstein was arrested and is no longer on this Earth. His paramour is serving a long prison sentence. Prince Andrew has been banished. I agree that people need to be help accountable but this whole thing has taken on a life of it's own. Trump ran on a platform and he's pretty much hit a homerun his first 6 months and is giving the people what they voted for. Epstein is noise and now the left is bringing it up because folks like you are focusing on it. I don't give a fuck about Epstein and it won't save the country. I want election integrity reforms.
 

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Epstein was arrested and is no longer on this Earth. His paramour is serving a long prison sentence. Prince Andrew has been banished. I agree that people need to be help accountable but this whole thing has taken on a life of it's own. Trump ran on a platform and he's pretty much hit a homerun his first 6 months and is giving the people what they voted for. Epstein is noise and now the left is bringing it up because folks like you are focusing on it. I don't give a fuck about Epstein and it won't save the country. I want election integrity reforms.
I don't give two shits about Epstein and am glad he is dead.

But it does bother me that dozens, maybe hundreds of human slime got away with abusing young girls (and some boys) and got NOTHING for it.

They all need to rot in hell. Most need their junk cut off with a rusted knife and some absolutely deserve to be fried in the chair.
 

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I don't give two shits about Epstein and am glad he is dead.

But it does bother me that dozens, maybe hundreds of human slime got away with abusing young girls (and some boys) and got NOTHING for it.

They all need to rot in hell. Most need their junk cut off with a rusted knife and some absolutely deserve to be fried in the chair.

You'll get no argument from me on any of your points. But what I am saying is that it's not a top priority under the current administration. A secure border, crime and the economy are what the man ran on. This other stuff is just shade for the left to smear Trump. And people are falling for it......
 
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