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Round and round we go. The only reason Garrett got a workout in the first place is because of his old man. I don't even know why you're discussing anything further beyond that. It's really not debatable.

3 out of 4 ain't bad........

I think guys like Garrett knew their place when Jimmy was here. Onve Jimmy left, everyone had a voice that could get to Jerry. I never made the argument and you're moving the goal posts. Garrett never gets a workout here without his old man intervening. You can't even admit that and instead...

So Jason Garrett might have gotten a workout without his old man intervening even though he didn't get one without that intervention? Got it.

Dbair is worse than Spags. At some point, Jim Garrett entrenched himself within the organization. He became something more than a scout and had Jerry's ear. That's the problem with the way the organization is run.

Or can it be that BP wanted to remove the folks from VR that had been giving Jerry bad advice all these years? Jim Garrett wasn't so entrenched in 89 as he was later on.

Are you always this dense. Let me ask you something. Do you think Jason Garrett would have gotten a workout here if Jim Garrett wasn't his old man? A simple yes or no will do.

Jim Garrett was already on-board when Jimmy was hired. What's your point?

My point, if you take the time to remove your homer glasses, was that he Jason Garrett benefited from his father's connection with the team. The only reason he got a shot at working out for Norv was because Garrett Sr. begged Norv to work out his son. The Garrett clan all benefited from the...

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Does anyone have his scouting report on Drew Henson or that WR he pimped back in the day (Leiber?). So he pimped the consensus #1 QB and #1 overall player in the draft that year. Color me unimpressed. He begged Norv to give his kid a workout to back-up Aikman and then his kid got a job...

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There would be no reason to hide an injury to Dak, especially since the season is over. Jerry would have put that out there the day after the Eagles game. I really think Dak's confidence is shot. And I also feel he bought into the hype of him being some super accurate passer who doesn't turn...

It must have pained you to use "decent" in your description of our franchise QB. Is decent the best you got? Was he "decent" at Denver? Was he 'decent" against Washington? I don't even think he was "decent" at NY to open the season. I mean, he had 5 games all season where his QB rating was...

You thought he had a decent 2017 season so this isn't saying much.

Forget the numbers and believe what your eyes tell you dbair. Holy smokes the "numbers" show that Dak is the best QB throwing in tight windows. Do you honestly believe that? And that Dez is the 3rd best WR catching the ball in "tight windows." I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall...

Exactly. His issues are plain as day. Can he improve? Do we hope he will improve? Absolutely. But to make every excuse in the book and now throw in a possible injury into that mix is just silly. We shouldn't have to stretch this much to make excuses for our starting QB.

So you're saying he played well against NY, Denver, Washington and LA, off the top of my head? Please man. We're just watching a different game.

I don't think he played particularly well against the Giants or Denver to open the season. He had 8 games this year with under 200 yards passing. He was atrocious this year. He played poorly when Zeke was out. And now you're throwing a possible injury into the mix as an excuse? Do you...

You're using the same argument that homers use with Garrett that are slanted by 13 and 3 and 12 and 4 seasons. You've been around long enough to know some QB issues when you see them, primarily lack of accuracy, lack of ability or willingness to go down field and poor pocket awareness. They...