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It's not a 4-12 team. It's in the upper tier of the mediocre ones in this league, which is 20 or so teams. The BAD teams, of which there are four or five annually, are the 4-12 outfits. It's a 8-8 team and has been for 20 years. It has aberrant years of more wins than that, and the occasional...

If Red did that, I would be really angry about it. You can't put toothpaste back in the tube. What I believe we should have seen is Garrett admitting he acted on false information - instead of the mealy-mouthed shit he said, that some are now parroting.

"Choke" depends on who you ask. Still does not at all change or even address, what I said.

If you think it's barely a 4-12 team then you should be able to easily believe it can go to a losing record in a season. It can, and will.

Hope springs eternal. The Romosapiens said this same stuff about Tony, for years.

I'm not so much worried about that as the combination of that and the lousy coaching we all know he is getting.

Which by the way, dbair... It really doesn't matter what players we have, we are still a 8-8 team because of the loser CULTURE in Dallas. The biggest success of Dak and Zeke is they served as a hydrocodone treatment to the cancer that is our loser culture. Like all cancers, it will come roaring...

And that's not what he is asserting. He is asserting they are morons for kneejerk cutting him without first at the very least determining the veracity of the police report. And they are. You are missing the point - they cannot possibly have the moral high ground to be saying "innocent until...

That's right, it was just dumb luck. Our Dallas braintrust wasn't high on Dak either.

Nothing ever gets deleted here, and if you want to find some of that stuff and quote it please do go ahead. But don't ask me to prove your assertions, that's on you. Good to see though you moved the goalposts back to their original position. Except now you're making it out of context: Nobody...

There's coaches, then there's players and until you are physically on the field against a Zeke or a Dak, you really do NOT know what they can do. That's called "sneaking up." And it is worth 5 more wins for this 8-8 team. That's also over now - we're not going to be sneaking up on anyone. Might...

It is, for 5 of your wins over 8-8. Are you not reading? Sneaking up on people makes all the difference between 8-8 and 13-3. It is a 8-8 mediocre team that occasionally strings together 3-5 more wins than that. And until i see at least two years in a row where they do string together those 3-5...

8-8 teams can and often do play pretty good. That wasn't the meter. Last season was and is a FLUKE, for the same reason every other 11-plus win season since 2007 has been. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STRING TOGETHER TWO OF THEM IN A ROW. We played well last season, nowhere have I said we didn't.

And all I'm doing is taking it the next logical step further, and asserting my belief that Whitehead would STILL be on this roster minus the false police report, and WOULD have made the final 53 man roster with a couple of key injuries to other players. I don't think that's a unreasonable...

Then why was he still on the roster? Oh yeah, because of what I said. Jerruh and Ginger hold on to spotty, marginal players. The very fact that he was still on the roster proves my point completely. That minus the false police report, he would still be there today and would be there until final...

Sure you do. It often takes a offseason of intense film and tendencies study to get the correct book on new players. You're only 5 wins better than 8-8, sneaking up on people accounts for those 5 wins.

You don't know what every player on the team knows, and you don't know what he was dedicated to. Other "guys" who were spotty performers? Right, no. You're comparing Whitehead to superstars. I am comparing Whitehead to other marginal, spotty players we KEPT over and over again, and Whitehead IS...

The numbers for the one, fluke season when we were sneaking up on people with a new QB and a new RB they had no book on. We won't be sneaking up on anyone this year. Might as well brace yourself for the 7-9 season that is looming.

THIS forum is the ONLY place on the web with "experts." LOL That wasn't your meter. Your meter was people thinking he was "garbage." Very few people anywhere were "positive" on the total unknown Dak, until he started playing with a star on his hat.

You're a master of the obvious, but you're also speculating. The bottom line is, with the established pattern of them hanging on to worthless players year after year, it is VERY safe to assume Whitehead was going to be there until final cuts, barring injury (which has happened) to guys like...