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A FG from the 15 yard line is still just about automatic. Will kicking it from the 15, as opposed tgo the 2, really going to change anyone's mind about the extra point and go for 2 instead? These people are fucking around with the integrity of the game for no reason whatsoever.

Exactly. No one knows the man and Fouts flourished under Coryell. My point was that Coryell was an innovator and the father of the modern passing attack. Martz, Walsh, Madden, Norv, Zampese and others credit Coryell. How you compare Coryell to Garrett (let alone Shula) is obscene and vile.

Henning never coached Fouts. Tommy Prothro....yeah, I had to look that up. But I know you get my original point even though someone else may not.

I bet you won't make that mistake again. BTW, I never made that mistake with you......

You had no point. Shula was a SB winning coach before Marino and Coryell was/is an innovator. Garrett is neither so what's the point in comparing the 3?

Oh, and another thing. Why would my feelings about Garrett apply to coaches and teams I don't give two shits about?

What's your point David because I'm not sure you have one. Shula had won multiple SB's before Marino and there's no question Coryell was an innovator who heavily influenced Fouts. Quick, name Fout's HC before Coryell? You can't. These coaches gave their QB their best chance to succeed, not...

Exactly. If we don't win a SB, I may never forgive the dolt for wasting away Romo's prime.

Hey XXX, we're all fans and I don't want you to think I'm attacking your opinion. I respect it but I just don't agree with some of it. "Quitting" is a relative term and I'm not sure anyone can really qualify it. I think Spencer admitted he took plays off and quit, as did Ratlif. You look...

What should I give him credit for exactly? It was a good season. Could have been better but it also could have been much worse. I won't anoint him until I see more with a franchise QB. Now can answer my question?

So what? The Saints game was the 10th game of the season and we were 5 and 5 after that game. How is that any consolation or prove anything? And the GB debacle was after the Saints game and Garrett completely fucked the 2nd half. I may never see such a debacle in my lifetime.

I don't agree. I think some coaches want an effective the running game to be part of their offense but that doesn't mean they want to necessarily run it more. Some teams are built that way thoughtand a running game is part of their identity. The Steelers want to run it and play good D. Same...

Thanks TE but it is Dbair we're debating with. It's not fair really, kind of like clubbing a helpless baby harp seal.......

Oh how I miss those threads about how the NFL has changed. How it's a passing league. Or how running more doesn't lead to success. Or how Red Jesus is the new breed of HC. Now we run and it's been Garrett's plan all along. Fucking disgusting. At least stay consistent. I'm with you on...

It's a question of economics coupled by an overconfidence in the OL. I'm amazed at all the folks who claim anyone can run behind our OL. Murray was a workhorse and that type of back, coupled with a quality QB, leads to success. Par for the course, if the RB by committe approach doesn't work...

Then why give Barber big money? Why draft Jones in the 1st round to compliment Barber? Why continue to draft TE's in the 2nd round to use the two TE set? So we sign a RB to a 40 million dollar contract and draft a RB in round 1 with the intent of not using them because we don't have an...

I hear you but the talk back then was our OL, just like it is today. I just don't think we can plug and play anyone and I just think we need a back that's tough and can get those tough yards. No doubt Murray and Randal both benefited from our OL. The runs Randal had were through wide open...

Well, you're still slurping his dick after 1 winning season. He can win me over but I need to see more than a guy who benefited from doing less.

Not sure how you can believe this. I was one of those guys that thought it was the OL and not Emmitt that was the strength of our running game and I was proven wrong. We're going down that same path again. Murray, coupled with Romo's injury, provided us with the opportunity to change our...

Still contributing these nuggets at 3:30 AM. Impressive.......