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you guys sound pretty amped on it.

I'm sure he was really terrified of what the media would have to say as opposed to teammates.

Did not expect jon to be the one to drop some perspective here.

Nice thread title.

Everyone's really just going to let this go? Really?

Like I said, that's the goal.

Exactly. Hopefully someday that's where we get with the ACA. Right now it's kind of a shit-show (hence the low approval numbers, dipshit) because we didn't actually socialize medicine, we just took the first step. We couldn't socialize medicine because people who pay lip-service to worshipping...

I guess you prefer the a la carte version of law enforcement, where if you need police assistance you shoulder the entire burden yourself.

Do you realize you just basically asked me how insurance works?

Here's a number for you - we 1 the elections, passed it into law and had it verified by the supreme court. stfu about how America doesn't want this.

I guess it's a good thing he won in a landslide re-election otherwise I might believe that he's the only person who wanted this thing.

The same way that socializing anything makes it more affordable, genius. The role of the federal government is whatever we say it is, and right now, we say that it's role is to provide a market so that every American can have affordable health care.

No, are you?

what's worse from a "damning of society" perspective - that we will watch a free spectacle between two retards who don't have the punching power to really hurt each other fight in a few 2 minute rounds or whatever.... or that we'll pay to watch two guys absolutely destroy each other in the ring...

Providing affordable healthcare for all of our citizens is not something we should do only if it advances the cause of capitalism. That's an idiotic viewpoint. Providing a disincentive to work for people who would not otherwise be working if there were other affordable options for healthcare for...

I know you are but what am I thanks Pee Wee Herman

That explains your first post in this thread.

How long ago did you stop watching the NFL? Like Dexter Manley era or did you wait until Leonard Little killed a guy?

I think the point is that two idiots agreeing to meet in the ring and haplessly throw haymakers for a few minutes for a fee isn't really comparable to gladiatorial spectacles where people are forced to fight to the death against their will. Like at all. I feel the same way about Veggie Tales.