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Oh, here's the Waters thread... Happened to turn on the pregame show right when Stephen came on, and he said it was on hold "for now". Sounded like a poor attempt at playing poker much more than our truly not having any interest anymore. My guess is Waters was asking for more money than...

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Heath may well be the surprise annual nobody who survives final cuts. Sham was saying on the radio broadcast of the game last week that the coaches really like him. If he makes a bunch of plays on special teams he could make it.

I liked Harper, too... What's wrong with him? Too slow?

Watching the Browns-Lions game on NFL... No wonder King asked if Kosar was drunk when he trashed the Rams. He sounds absolutely fitshaced. Maybe it's permanent, I dunno. But he sounds worse than Jerry on a pregame show, which is pretty damn bad.

Yeah, he's actually kind of like Tyron in that way. I'm in Big 12 country and I remember first hearing about him way before the draft process when a former coach was talking about how good a player he was and what amazing athletic ability he had for someone his size. They said the only...

I remember that everyone hated Solder and I could never figure out why. IIRC people thought he looked bad in some combine drills or something, not sure. But he was a heck of a player and athlete in college so I wasn't that surprised when the Pats took him.

Same. Williams was all athletic freak and projection, plus he had some motor questions. The Texans actually got a lot of heat for taking him over Bush and Young. No one would question taking Clowney. Anyway, I know the question was about along the lines of hype going into the draft, but...

T-Will hasn't played yet, so don't know.

Oh, I wasn't suggesting you were making it up. Just that I'd missed it.

Hadn't heard that one. The old Jerry PR machine draft standby: We have info that the Patriots/Niners/other top team were just about to take him!

Galloway and Mosley had a great point one day. Tony got a huge new contract extension. Jerry obviously is giving him more say in everything. Given that, do you think the offseason change in playcaller would have been made if Tony said, "Jerry, look, Jason is doing a great job and I agree...

We've been damn lucky overall this preseason. We've lost, what one backup defensive lineman. Teams around the league are losing multiple starters at important positions like left tackle.

What do you mean, "not worth it"?

Well, that's exactly why none of them are paid. Naw, there are tons of players who never amount to anything, just like in the pros. Eh, don't agree at all. Yes, college tuition has gotten completely out of whack, but still, if you're a parent or student himself or anyone else actually...

Exactly. And it's worth far more than that over the course of a lifetime of earning. People always think of the Manziels and Cam Newtons when talking about how much money the players make for the school, but what about all the third team guards who barely get on the field but still get that...

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I heard they meet up a lot. Mid likes to buy him steak dinners when he's in town. Way he was raised.

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