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You misspelled Troy...

That chart looks a lot like the US government's. Of course Detroit can't print its own money.

I thought we'd be a bigger favorite than that.

Thanks for clarifying that, jon.

We started as only a one-point favorite? That kind of surprises me.

LOL Good point.

I dunno, I never thought Ingram was going to be that good. He's not particularly big or fast, and just never looked special to me. :confused I'm mainly surprised so many teams had him ranked so high. Including us.

Great O-lines. There, didn't need a whole article.

I don't think he looked like himself the whole time. And you need to step into even short throws so they're accurate. Not just when you want to heave it a long way.

Well I don't agree with Laz. I didn't see any of the Skins' last two games, but in that first one against the Eagles, he definitely didn't look like himself at all. Forget the running, he didn't even want to step into his throws like he used to. So it's not just a revisionist excuse.

Rick Astley Garrett

No, you guys are right, just the tender. Sucks for him.

Easy to say now, Fish... Where was this inside reporting months ago?

When he had McNair is when he was going 11-5 and beating the Pats and Steelers back when they were good. And I know Young came in in 2006, because his first game was when we played them when Parcells was here. Anyway, I know you think he sucks... That's cool if you want to think so.

.500 might be good when you've had Vince Young forced on you about half that time, and then had to use a 50 year old Kerry Collins...

I've wondered what Murray's deal is, too. Seems like he just doesn't have much endurance. He's so much bigger than he was at OU, I wonder if he's bulked up so far over his natural weight that it just wears him out. Pretty weird how on those long runs it's like he looks for a place to fall down.

Parcells got rid of him probably because 1) he isn't a good scout and 2) he has paper thin skin.

The whole Rams team looked like retards. I'll give us credit for stepping up and winning well-played, tough games... The Steelers game was like that last year. But yesterday the Rams just didn't show up. I doubt they'd have beaten Jacksonville yesterday. So I hope the team's heads don't get...

Pretty sure he was to be one after this year, and people were hoping he might come here to play for Marinelli. But then he signed an extension with them.