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Rumor has it that the Lions would have taken Fredericks with their 2nd round pick. Sorry, but like RBs, TEs are becoming a dime-a-dozen, and you shouldn't be wasting high draft picks for them.

Like Rob Ryan, and he has pedigree.

So you think Jerry's went through all the trouble to bring the Tampa 2 defense to Dallas, and then he's going to turn around and bring in a guy like Zimmer, and have the players unlearn the Tampa 2, and learn Zimmer's defense? Sorry, but my money is either on Gruden or Lovie Smith, with Smith...

Anyone watching any of the other divisional games?

Will Fredericks last 16 games? Will Lee or Cartter or Murray last 16 games? Who knows.

Good. People in here expect Waters would come in and make a big splash, but more than likely he would turn out to be a total drip.

Yeah right. It won't be like we'll be getting a Brian "Rushing Flood" Waters, that carries away Dlinemen; With our luck... we'll get the Brian "The Dline Runs Through Him Like" Waters.

Dante Rosario and James Hanna... and we waste a fucking 2nd round pick on Escobar.... and he's a lousy blocker. BRILLIANT!

Cliff Harris with the porn star mustache.

Yeah, but hink of it like this. Most of the time, the Cowboys would not get that turnover still.

Arkin did as well on Tanner's second run. He turned his defender, which sprung Tanner.

I'm kind of envisioning Arkin as a possible Kyle Kosier-like player. If we can get that from Arkin, that would be huge. Kosier was not an All-Pro, or Pro Bowler, or even an above average guard, but he gave you more than solid and consistent play, he was a grunt to the fullest, and like I said...

Would like to see some Leary highlights.

That Penndelton or Pennelton guy (#72), also looked pretty good, and not just on that play. A little slow off the snap but he has great power.

Or maybe I'm just lowering the bar, but I thought Leary looked pretty good. I'm not buying into the overall Jerryed-up hype of him yet, but he looked more than decent.

He's from Mississippi, like Portis---have you met him? Did he have a pic with the dogs playing cards and/or pool?

Yeah. You should put up his HOF speech. When he breaks down talking about Moose, and then they pan to Moose. That got me pumped.

Justin Beriault 2.0. It's a shame.

Well, naturally we will see. Admittedly, it's a great start. But it would be a testament to Kiffin and especially Marinelli, if they can turn players like this into solid contributors.

Not as much as the QBs on their team.