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I mentioned a couple teams Cup. But again, I really don't give a shit. About the only thing we've done well is hit on O linemen in the 1st round consistently. I'll go furher...I'm starting to have my doubts about Zek and Dak although for drafting purposes, Dak was a 4th rounder. If he...

And how do you reconcile that? He had talent in 2016 but not in 17? Chaz Green had question marks coming out of college. His failure on this team should not come as a surprise. The guy lacks heart and passion for the game. Those guys don't work hard enough to improve their craft. I...

For all of Bennett's talents, he can't stay with one team for any length of time. There is no right environment for that kind of player, just like there's no right environment for a guy like Gregory. It's a waste of a pick. I think a lot of these guys have "talent." But we have no idea how...

Absolutely not. Johnson doesn't trade 3 picks for RWII or not have one contributor from 2009 with a dozen or so picks. You keep telling yourself we have talent and we'll keep failing and you'll keep scratching your head as to why.

Who cares? What bearing does it have on us consistently failing with second round picks or better? Does it make you feel better that other teams suck as well? I don't give a hoot about other teams. And I do know what you're refering to. I did see something yesterday that we ranked somewhere...

I thought so too. If I remember he was drafted to be the swing tackle but maybe he couldn't play tackle (surprise!!!) and they just tried to find a spot for him on the line?

Newman got a second contract with us...Carr wasn't drafted by us and did you really mention Bennett? Waste of a draft pick and they should have known he was a headcase. I remember Hard Knocks episode and the war room is telling Jerry they'll have to keep their foot on Bennett's throat and...

What's you saying Dooms? You talkin bout my mama?

Rynie called it. This dude is a crack baby who's brain never developed. Some folks should mature with age. This guy just gets dumber.

Chaz Green was a third round pick who was supposed to play multiple positions on the line. That was his job. He was drafted to be a swing tackle. That's how this scouting department and personnel people identified him. He then gave us one of the most putrid OL performances any of us have...

I understand that. But if a player has an issue with the angles he takes to make a tackle, that's not something he picked up in the NFL. I'm not sure any culture can make Chaz Green a serviceable OL. Or make the Gimp walk without a limp. Or make Randy Gregory swear off off weed. We've not...

A couple of teams let Amendola walk. That's why we get so hyped about Switzer and Beasley. But Brady is going to make a lot of guys look good.

I'm not going to disagree with you that coaching makes a difference. It absolutely does. But these guys have been playing football their whole life. I think we misjudged Chaz Green badly. He had question marks coming out of college in terms of his love for the game. I don't think that's the...

Show me. I get it; they've had a good run on OL they took in round one. And you can point to Zek and Dak last year but the jury is still out on them and that includes Zek. Maybe the coaching is just not properly developing guys. But then how do we judge them and make the assertion that we've...

Of course. But what does that do to prove your point that we've drafted well when you name 13 or so players and go back 18 years? I can give you an equally horrendous list of Day 1 misses....and I won't even go to Day 2 where we should be drafting for depth and there's no question we lack...

Longevity is a huge plus. I agree. I mention that because dbair reference a 5 year draft evaluation in an earlier post. Having said that, that's not a strong list if you're going to go back as far as 2103. I also agree with your other points. Having said that, I still don't believe we've...

Did you really just include Lee, T Smith and Witten in your list? I mean, how far back do you have to go to pull draft picks to prove your incorrect point? 15 years? And what have Crawford, Jones and the Gimp done....? I think we fans sometimes tend to over value our players. If you look...

I don't need a ranking to know we have not drafted well outside of first round OL. It's simply a myth. I'm tired of all this winning we're doing.......

Really? What is that based on? The fact that they didn't pick Manziel? This team has not drafted well. The fact that they avoided a nut case while drafting scrubs like Gregory or Escobar or Claiborne or the Gimp doesn't give them any fan brownie points.

Welcome and good post. Make yourself at home......you're going to fit right in here. What's with all the locations?