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Overall TEs get no attention/respect/love. Tony G is one of the greatest players of all time for any position and mostly everyone could give a fuck. Combination of playing in KC and playing at one of the league's least noticeable positions. But yeah fantasy and league wise Witten gets...

no worries, watch a few youtube vids then tell us all what you saw when you "scouted" them. Throw in good buzz words, talk alot about how they have good "range" and hips, take a few controversial positions on top prospects, and you're there.

Warmack or whichever other guard falls.

ok deepthroat produce some evidence that shows everyone's been lying for 20 years.

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\inorite god forbid someone start a thought-provoking line of questioning, get an actual discussion going here and interrupt the jerry sux circlejerk for two seconds.

I'd have to see those statements in context I don't recall them off the top of my head.

My argument is maybe we should like...idk...listen to what people say, and not just cherry pick the things we want to listen to from 20 years ago and assume everything is still the same because it fits our preconceptions (from 20 years ago). Your argument is lol troll. Thanks zbot.

You guys are so fucking terrible at reading and formulating responses that I have to redirect you to the actual topic 50 times before someone formulates something resembling rational thought. That's not trolling that's called leadership, z-bot.

Thanks zrinkill.

Exactly.

It could be anyone. Bill's not our only former employee. Jimmy wasn't the only one corroborating his stories. I'm saying there's a chance they're all telling the truth. You're saying nothing's changed in 20 years and everyone is lying. No idea why I should believe that.

I never said Jimmy didn't count.

ok you've got nothing.

My question destroys your world, which is why you won't answer it. Because there is no answer. You're believing what you want to believe to fit your perception. I'm just asking for you to make a convincing argument.

Either answer the questions I've asked or shut up.

I'm asking why you believe that to be true? It's the tougher default position, as all conspiracy theories are, because they require that EVERYONE be lying. And not only lying, but keeping quiet forever so the truth never gets out. The stories we hear now aren't conflicting, and we haven't had...

We've already tabled the Jimmy/Jerry relationship. That isn't what I asked.

So you guys are effectively saying that not only is Jerry lying to make himself look good, but everyone who's worked for him since Jimmy is also lying in order to protect their prospects in the league - even ones with a history of skewering owners who will never look for a job in the league...

Yeah Parcells, a guy who skewered the shit out of Kraft (criticized him for being a meddling owner who wanted to be involved even though he knew nothing about football) when he left NE, is super worried about professional courtesy. Especially now that he's probably never going to look for...