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  1. Dodger12

    Shroud of Turin Image in 3D; Is it Real or a Forgery?

    Pretty interesting and this video would indicate that the Shroud couldn't be an elaborate painting as some have suggested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N9NPuxCjXg
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    I might be offended if you even knew or understood what that view was but it's obvious you can't grasp it. No sweat. The thread will just continue to deteriorate to the point that any reasonable discussion is pointless. You can have the last word.
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    Honestly, leave that bullshit somewhere else. I didn't insult anyone's intelligence and I wasn't questioning or thinking it was unreasonable to wonder why a county employee is making crazy money. On the contrary, I question it as well. It's not my problem if you can't follow the flow of the...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    I've had multiple posts in this thread and I think I've stated pretty clearly where I stand on the subject. Civil servants, whether you agree with them or not, are necessary to the function of government; it's a necessary expense. Have some unions and pension plans gone way off the...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    It just doesn't sink in. It may not be the case across the board and not all pension plans are the same, but it certainly is in many cases.
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    I haven't been advocating a distinction. At some point, these things are necessary expenditures (ie: public safety, teachers, firefighters, etc). What I have stated is that in today's economic climate, the continued increase in salaries and benefits needs to be looked at and there can be a...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    Of course it's spending. What's your point?
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    Look TE, I think you're much smarter than that. Do you really believe that NY, CA or IL are going broke because of civil servants? Really? These liberal states have spent themselves into oblivion.
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    Maybe you've not been watching the news lately about Wisconsin and I'm sure other states will follow, if they haven't already. I don't have any issue with folks being critical and in some cases, it's justified. Just be accurate with the facts.
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    It has worked for years. You act as if the public sector has never been dealing with employee pensions. Municipalities, as well as our own government, are going bankrupt because they are not fiscally responsible. I agree that unions and pensions need to be looked at; there is a fair median...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    I take it personally, to some extent, because I want the information relayed to the public to be accurate. When there are myths and misconceptions that people spout and others take it as gospel, that's a problem. I agree that, given the economic climate, it's tough to justify increases in...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    I agree that they work as much OT as possible when they near retirement but that OT needs to be approved. For a uniformed NYPD officer to make anywhere near what you're saying after 20 years of service, they'd have to have salaries in excess of $200,000 with overtime. That's impossible (for a...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    Maybe I'm old but I don't know a retired cop with 20 years of service that has a 100k pension. You get 50% of your salary for 20 years of service. For each additional year after 20, you get 1.66% extra on top of the 50%. If you go to 40 years your pension will be based on 83.2% of the...
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    California county administrator to get $423,644 a year -- after retirement

    Your numbers are way off. You may be confusing their final year's salary with their pension (which may be half your figure). Even then, a NYC police officer would probably have to work some crazy overtime to hit that salary figure. The reality is that the NYPD is underpaid to work AND live in...
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    WTC 7

    Holy smokes man....I was just going to post the same, exact thing after peplaw's earlier post. Something I saw on a mob layers desk many years ago and it just stuck with me. Now I'm sure there are drones overhead and the G is on to me when people on DCU can read my mind........shit......
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    WTC 7

    Avatars are a bit personal and can give away too much information about ones self on the net. I'm not giving the G any hints as to my true identity for fear of being tracked and my communications tapped......of course, there's always the possibility that I'm completely computer illiterate and...
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    WTC 7

    And what your posting and linking makes sense Jon? Do you really believe the government caused one of the worse commuter train accidents in history to silence one man who had a connection to 911 because he was the general that scrambled the fighter jets? Really? That the local police are "in"...
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    WTC 7

    I figured since you brought it up you'd know who you're referring to or have something to reference, especially since people mysteriously were killed off.
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    WTC 7

    Like who? And the fact that people heard explosions after planes flew into their buildings almost had me convinced it was all a cover-up. That's pretty compelling evidence right there. This. Never. Happened.
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    WTC 7

    I pilot those strange choppers hovering outside Jon88's house as we speak.........he's on to us.
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