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didnt gruden call plays in TB? i thought so..but i dont remember

is gruden a walk around head coach? isnt that a no no here?

id be interested in knowing which candidates wed consider to run this defense..

im quickly jumping on board

sean payton doesnt have any control either..why do people think these head coaches will just come in here demanding shit theyve never had before? just because they yell at slow, dumb football players on sundays?

none of this matters...the argument that he didnt/cant work w davis or jones doesnt work

gruden had no control at any of his spots before..i doubt he gets any here

Al Davis got rid of Gruden..im not so certain - at least im not aware - that Gruden had an issue with Davis..or that they couldnt work well together..my understanding is that Grudens contract was expiring (a year down the line) and davis didnt feel Gruden warranted the type of pay day Gruden was...

how about bringing in Kiffin to run the D? Get the old gang back together? lolol

absolutely..no arguing any of this.. its clear that garrett isnt capable of scheming ways to win..i feel like he would be a great coach if he had all the pieces..but thats not the case here

Yeah. But at least the drafting over the last 3 years has been solid Dez Lee Mo Smith Murray Carter You can win w drafts like these

The only thing I think this team is doing even ok at is drafting. If we start to fuck that up-we are a gutter team

What happens if you go for it now..don't even get close..then the personnel decisions blow and we suck major for the next 5-7 years? That's my biggest concern

What is it that you don't like about him?

doesn't seem like our chances of winning a tiebreaker-even a 3 team tiebreaker for the 6th seed, is even remotely likely. I knew it was a long shot-but it's worse than I thought.

I wasn't high on Gruden, but after doin research it's hard not to be impressed

^^ I don't even know if there are 6-7 options out there.

This board is awesome. Can't find this kind of football banter anywhere else.. What would I do without this place

Biggest knock on Gruden is he won w dungys players and then didnt do shit. When in reality, #1) he was very successful In Oakland After taking over a shitty team. And #2) the Bucs traded away 2 firsts AND 2 seconds to trade for Gruden. TB was already In cap hell when Gruden took over and the...

He won 11 games In 05 with Griese and Simms playing QB! This guy has some pretty good accomplishments