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yea, but don't they have to also get the staff there, if air force 1, the flight crew, rent out entire floors of hotels, security... it seems excessive, to be sure. but it's not just obama and biden there. any idea how much it cost bush to do a similiar trip?

yea, he was a dumbass until they needed him to be clever.

except that capitalism - where people make money providing goods and services - isn't like the government - who will take from those who are doing and rely on it. then force it from them. and when they run out, yell at the "rich white man" in blame so they can simply take more vs. actually do...

yea, but that can work on both sides. kinda pointless to just say it's going 1 way.

ok, let me bite on this. miami dolphins altanta falcons new york giants philly minnesota seattle oakland arizona who were their qb's in the same timeframe? i just pulled them out of the blue but let's quit looking at the singular to prove an overall point and let's look at everything.

you sound like superpunk. all emotion. fuck facts.

we did use him when convenient to us, no denying that fact. but to say "islamists are stupid" - if i, or anyone countering this discussion, were to simply use a broad generalization, would you let us, or question it? question it.

if you're going to make such damning accusations, i'd have to think you'd investigate both sides equally. otherwise, you're just another agenda pusher. for example - an interview where osama denied killing women and children: from osama: I have already said that I am not involved in the 11...

that's a pretty convenient viewpoint you got there. there's "evidence" on both sides, now people just pick and choose to support what they want to believe. the entire islamic terrorist movement got used and doesn't say a word. paint them as "stupid" there's a lot of things i hate about our...

fine. so we somehow out thought an entire group of global terrorists to hit us, make it look like they did it, for us, so we can have more power over us and come after them "legally" and systematically take them down. you're willing to believe one far fetched notion just so you can keep another...

i still want to "get" the connection to our government hiring people to do suicide missions in the plane from extreme islamists who hate us for no other reason so our government can have even more power on us. why would *they* cooperate? why would *they* kill themselves for our gain and their...

so we hired islamic terrorists to kill themselves so we can put more power/control over us? and they've kept it quiet all these years.

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire. much less the owner of a top franchise in sports. he sees the next step or two. not the entire picture.

if we're to look for a qb this year, i'd rather do it and look at other rosters. not this years draft.

i think a lot of things were jacked long before this last season fell into place. if this is really a "growth" process looking only at last season is for us. not for reality. garrett is a young coach trying to prove himself in a difficult situation. i don't analyze play by play but try to see a...

i never could get into this show. it just didn't "hit" me like "vikings" would. or any medieval show. but if i wanna watch a show like this, joe pesci was the shit to portray the part.

so can you tell me the overall cost of an electric car vs. gas? i mean, since oil still comes into play in the "overall" cost.... how much does it cost to replace the batteries? what is the total cost of owning an electric car vs. gas today and what is the overall gain, if any? i predict you...

just didn't want to be rude. :) btw - sp will just LOL his way through things. i dig deeper. that's what pisses him off.

hope you don't mind if i quote you on that. :) if you do, i'll change sig.

yea, he'll be playing hard to get at the prison dances.