FAFO- Antifa and Leftists

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Shoot them all. Fucking wastes of oxygen.

I hate these people with a passion.

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I'm pretty disappointed in some of the statements DHS/Noem put out the last few days on the Pretti incident. They were flat out inaccurate and made up in some cases. Just as false as many of the descriptions the left had about the Good shooting.

I'm good with the ICE/BP operations as a whole, see these agitators as often criminal, and the comments by Frey/Waltz borderline illegal/insurrectionist, but am still not 100% sure how I feel on this specific incident. The guy was definitely an idiot, and he did engage the agents an in illegal manner. Definitely needed to be arrested. I need more info on the shooting part though. What I don't need is DHS making false claims that the currently available videos completely dispute.

If it was a lawful shooting, explain it with the actual facts. If it was unclear, say it's under investigation and we'll know more in time. If it was a bad shoot, even under the difficult circumstances caused by the agitators, admit it, and take the necessary steps. Even if it was bad, that does not negate the legitimacy or need of the overall operations, and it does not absolve those resisting and sparking so many issues from their responsibility in what is happening.

Kevinicus said:

I'm pretty disappointed in some of the statements DHS/Noem put out the last few days on the Pretti incident. They were flat out inaccurate and made up in some cases. Just as false as many of the descriptions the left had about the Good shooting.

I'm good with the ICE/BP operations as a whole, see these agitators as often criminal, and the comments by Frey/Waltz borderline illegal/insurrectionist, but am still not 100% sure how I feel on this specific incident. The guy was definitely an idiot, and he did engage the agents an in illegal manner. Definitely needed to be arrested. I need more info on the shooting part though. What I don't need is DHS making false claims that the currently available videos completely dispute.

If it was a lawful shooting, explain it with the actual facts. If it was unclear, say it's under investigation and we'll know more in time. If it was a bad shoot, even under the difficult circumstances caused by the agitators, admit it, and take the necessary steps. Even if it was bad, that does not negate the legitimacy or need of the overall operations, and it does not absolve those resisting and sparking so many issues from their responsibility in what is happening.

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I don't know if you've heard, but there's an actual video out there (several now) of this event.

Low and behold it shows a dipshit causing a problem, several law enforcement officials trying to detain him, shows the dipshit severely resisting arrest. Wow said dipshit is armed with a 9mm and multiple loaded magazines. Said dipshit didnt have an ID on him even though it's required by law in Minnesota for anyone that has a conceal license and is actively carrying.

There's no dispute he is a leftist dipshit. There's no dispute he resisted arrest. There's no dispute that he was armed and no dispute he showed up with no ID. He went there to cause trouble and most likely went there with the intent to kill ICE Officers.

He got shot and killed, and it's his own fault. Easy way for this not to happen. I got up today and know 100% that no matter where I go today I won't get shot by an ICE Officer.

Lesson to learn? Don't be a fucktard.

dbair1967 said:

I don't know if you've heard, but there's an actual video out there (several now) of this event.

Low and behold it shows a dipshit causing a problem, several law enforcement officials trying to detain him, shows the dipshit severely resisting arrest. Wow said dipshit is armed with a 9mm and multiple loaded magazines. Said dipshit didnt have an ID on him even though it's required by law in Minnesota for anyone that has a conceal license and is actively carrying.

There's no dispute he is a leftist dipshit. There's no dispute he resisted arrest. There's no dispute that he was armed and no dispute he showed up with no ID. He went there to cause trouble and most likely went there with the intent to kill ICE Officers.

He got shot and killed, and it's his own fault. Easy way for this not to happen. I got up today and know 100% that no matter where I go today I won't get shot by an ICE Officer.

Lesson to learn? Don't be a fucktard.

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Yes, I've seen all the videos. And none of what you said is inaccurate. Those are not things that DHS/Noem said that I take issue with.

They explicitly said that he USED the gun against officers. That's a blatant lie, regardless of the other things being true. and they absolutely should be admonished for it.

Kevinicus said:

They explicitly said that he USED the gun against officers.

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Link.

Doomsday said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/26/trump-administration-alex-pretti-shooting-statements

Apologies for using The Guardian, but it was just near the top.

Noem - "...This is a violent riot when you have someone showing up with weapons and are using them to assault law enforcement officers."

She also claimed that he approached the officers with the weapon, insinuating he had it out.

She also claimed he brandished the weapon (Previous statements are also in this video).
- (2:20)


Stephen Miller - "An Assassin tried to murder federal agents...". He certainly brought the means to do so with him, but there is no evidence of an attempt.



I don't take issue with the rest of the statements, but those are irresponsible.

Kevinicus said:

Yes, I've seen all the videos. And none of what you said is inaccurate. Those are not things that DHS/Noem said that I take issue with.

They explicitly said that he USED the gun against officers. That's a blatant lie, regardless of the other things being true. and they absolutely should be admonished for it.

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I have followed this pretty close and have never seen anyone from the ICE side say this, or even intimate this at all.

Everything I have read or seen on interviews just said they found him armed and with extra loaded magazines.

Please show me where they have.

Kevinicus said:

I don't take issue with the rest of the statements, but those are irresponsible.

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Naturally you completely ignore context and rely on flat out lies from the guardian.

Pay attention to Noem's statement. She reads the official statement then starts generalizing and talking broadly about these people not this exact one.

Anyhow, you have a problem with the statements and that's fine. None of us were there.

Kevinicus said:

It was just near the top

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You had to search it up. Proving you're just regurgitating whatever you like hearing. And you hurry to a sports board where you've only posted political stuff and NOTHING at all about sports. InternetKing returns!!!

Kevinicus said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/26/trump-administration-alex-pretti-shooting-statements

Apologies for using The Guardian, but it was just near the top.

Noem - "...This is a violent riot when you have someone showing up with weapons and are using them to assault law enforcement officers."

She also claimed that he approached the officers with the weapon, insinuating he had it out.

She also claimed he brandished the weapon (Previous statements are also in this video).
- (2:20)


Stephen Miller - "An Assassin tried to murder federal agents...". He certainly brought the means to do so with him, but there is no evidence of an attempt.



I don't take issue with the rest of the statements, but those are irresponsible.

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I dont care what Stephen Miller says, he is not posting on an official government account nor is he a law enforcement official. What he said is an opinion.

The headline you posted above the video is quite misleading (which is not a surprise since you are using The Guardian material) a leftist website that constantly leaves out facts or distorts the truth. They also offer continual support to the Muslim rape gang community in England something which I know you are probably aware of.

That said, Noem never claims the person is pointing the weapon at the officers. She said the officers saw he had a weapon on his person. Later she uses the term "brandishing" to support her comment that he had the gun on his person. Brandish does not solely mean a person had a gun in their hand waving it around. It can mean he had it on his person and "showed" it to intimidate others. Maybe it was actually holstered and he revealed it that way.

Kevinicus said:

They explicitly said that he USED the gun against officers. That's a blatant lie, regardless of the other things being true. and they absolutely should be admonished for it.

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And you still never showed us anything where Kristi Noem said "he used the gun against officers"

dbair1967 said:

And you still never showed us anything where Kristi Noem said "he used the gun against officers"

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The Guardian, some far leftist YouTube channel, and Stephen Miller should be all you need.

That Noem video is on all the legit news networks but no, can't use one of those because we know it's not deepfaked.

But regardless - the dude showed up armed with enough ammunition to kill a lot of people, then he fucked around by interfering with the officers, and found out. Topic of the thread satisfied.

Doomsday said:

You had to search it up. Proving you're just regurgitating whatever you like hearing. And you hurry to a sports board where you've only posted political stuff and NOTHING at all about sports. InternetKing returns!!!

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That's not logical at all.

It means I wanted to provide an actual link that you requested.

I watched the statements from Noem yesterday. You asked for a link, so I went and got some. Then you complain that I went and got the links? That's pathetic. Be better than that dude.

I know the Guardian is shit. but the quotes/statements I referenced in that article were accurate, and in the video I also posted.

You guys are deflecting from facts with logical fallacies.

WTF is InternetKing? I've been on this site, and CZ, and the other site Reality created (Punndits -sp?) for awhile on politics and and a well known conservative.

dbair1967 said:

I dont care what Stephen Miller says, he is not posting on an official government account nor is he a law enforcement official. What he said is an opinion.

The headline you posted above the video is quite misleading (which is not a surprise since you are using The Guardian material) a leftist website that constantly leaves out facts or distorts the truth. They also offer continual support to the Muslim rape gang community in England something which I know you are probably aware of.

That said, Noem never claims the person is pointing the weapon at the officers. She said the officers saw he had a weapon on his person. Later she uses the term "brandishing" to support her comment that he had the gun on his person. Brandish does not solely mean a person had a gun in their hand waving it around. It can mean he had it on his person and "showed" it to intimidate others. Maybe it was actually holstered and he revealed it that way.

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There is no evidence at all that she "brandished" in ANY way.

What "headline" are you talking about? I didn't post a headline. The Guardian is irrelevant. It's just one of an infinite number of sources with the relevant quotes. The youtube video has them as well. You're deflecting.

And no, she is clearly specifically talking about this incident with this man when she says, "when you have someone showing up with weapons and are using them to assault law enforcement officers."

If she is talking in general (she is not, she is still on this singular incident), then that would be irresponsible as well as it would then not be applicable to this situation.

She goes from immediately criticizing him for showing up to a protest with a gun and not a sign (not digging the anti 2nd amendment aspect of that to be honest, but it's not important) to calling this SPECIFIC INSTANCE a violent riot because of??? "someone showing up with weapons and ****USING*** them to assault law enforcement officers." There was no switch to more generalized events. And there has been no other claims about others at the incidents using weapons. She was speaking of Pretti, and it is clear.

Miller posting on a non-government account is not really relevant either. He is in a high level position and making unfounded claims. It's not a good look. Just like it's not a good look for the left when crazed members of Congress make ridiculous claims about a 5 year old being kidnapped.

And when you say someone "approached the officers with a gun," you are suggesting the gun was a part of the approach, not that it was secured where it's lawfully supposed to be.

Kevinicus said:

That's not logical at all

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It is, you're simply dishonest.