The One Big Ass Parsons Trade Tracker

touchdown said:

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I'm sorry, but these jackasses all remind of watching CNN or MSNBC where they completely make up shit off the top of their head.

Schefter says "as one GM told me, this was Jerry's modern version of the Walker trade."

I'm calling BULLSHIT.

It's far more believable to me that Jerry had concerns about Micah's back, about his attitude, about his leadership. And in Jerry's eyes, Micah went back on his word. I think Jerry is an old-timer and in his eyes there is nothing worse than going back on your word. I think he lives by "your word is your bond".

Put it all together and trading Micah starts to look better and better considering we should still be able to have a pass rush regardless.

These people reflexively always defend the players' side, but there comes a point when you just can't give in to demands. Micah says he had no demands. Who the heck believes that? How is it that he didn't accept 202 million if he had no demands?

I'd agree that Jerry might of thought it was a Walker-light trade. In today's NFL, you're just not going to get an Eric Dickerson or Walker trade anymore. All teams now value draft picks and they aren't going to part with them just because.

dbair1967 said:

If they use it to get aggressive and pull the trigger on a guy they believe is a true high end #1 QB, I'm good with that.

They need to stop depending on "let's hope we get lucky" and instead identify THE guy they really want and then go get him. If it doesn't work out then so be it, but you have to trust the scouts and coaches if they are saying "this guy is a perfect fit for our system and the NFL game and can take us farther than Prescott or Romo ever did"

They don't need another one of these guys. They need an Aikman/Elway/P Manning type

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Maybe for a QB in 2027 and I wouldn't fault them. But I can see them moving up to chase the next Parsons or for some over ranked player. You just know it.

yimyammer said:

I just have to say regarding the Parson poll dbair1967 created:

Mr. dbair, what you did is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent & locked before it started poll were you even close to anything that could be considered an actual poll. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for opening that thread. I award you no likes, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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I sent it to the Asthma Field this morning. I should be getting all the likes.

Dodger12 said:

Maybe for a QB in 2027 and I wouldn't fault them. But I can see them moving up to chase the next Parsons or for some over ranked player. You just know it.

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The good news is that on paper at least, both of these next two drafts look pretty stacked. It'll be good drafts to have two 1st rd picks in each for sure.

Aggiepride said:

I'm sorry, but these jackasses all remind of watching CNN or MSNBC where they completely make up shit off the top of their head.

Schefter says "as one GM told me, this was Jerry's modern version of the Walker trade."

I'm calling BULLSHIT.

It's far more believable to me that Jerry had concerns about Micah's back, about his attitude, about his leadership. And in Jerry's eyes, Micah went back on his word. I think Jerry is an old-timer and in his eyes there is nothing worse than going back on your word. I think he lives by "your word is your bond".

Put it all together and trading Micah starts to look better and better considering we should still be able to have a pass rush regardless.

These people reflexively always defend the players' side, but there comes a point when you just can't give in to demands. Micah says he had no demands. Who the heck believes that? How is it that he didn't accept 202 million if he had no demands?

I'd agree that Jerry might of thought it was a Walker-light trade. In today's NFL, you're just not going to get an Eric Dickerson or Walker trade anymore. All teams now value draft picks and they aren't going to part with them just because.

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I don't think they saw it as a "Herschel trade" at all, the Herschel trade was beyond ridiculous and its almost a 100% lock nothing like it ever happens again. They were never getting all that. I do think they got less than we all expected, but it was never going to be a Walker level deal nor do I believe in their minds they think they GOT a Walker type deal.

I think its as simple as Jones was genuinely pissed (and maybe even hurt) that Parsons reneged on what he thought was a very generous offer, something that exceeded what Parsons himself said he needed.

He didn't trade him immediately because he really didn't want to, they know he's a great, unique player and he (Jones) believed they'd work it out.

Then we got to camp, and Parsons went full turd. Skipped all the practices. Made up a fake injury to keep getting paid and avoid fines.

The Falcons preseason game pushed them all over the edge and they (collectively) said "fuck it, he has to go"

It sux, I think it totally hijacked Schottenheimer's first camp and I would not be surprised if Schott might have went to Jerry and Spawn after that Falcons game and said "enough is enough". The timeline of how they said this trade went down seems to indicate this is probably how it all played out too.

Is Dbair drunk on power like Reality? I'd rather not say.

bbgun said:

Is Dbair drunk on power like Reality? I'd rather not say.

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You'll know that to be true when I start deleting threads or posts I don't like or prove that I was a dumbass.

I'll also post annoying rules in big block letters with warnings of major consequences.

I'll post warnings within threads warning people not to bash Prescott or other Mods.

I'll also start running annoying ads and banners to fuck with everyone's enjoyment of the website.

Any Joe Blow guy can tell there's a vast difference between how Kenny Clark plays DT v Mazi Smith

Clark has uniform #96 for anyone who holding their breath to know.

Odiggy has the #97 he had in Green Bay

dbair1967 said:

I don't think they saw it as a "Herschel trade" at all, the Herschel trade was beyond ridiculous and its almost a 100% lock nothing like it ever happens again. They were never getting all that. I do think they got less than we all expected, but it was never going to be a Walker level deal nor do I believe in their minds they think they GOT a Walker type deal.

I think its as simple as Jones was genuinely pissed (and maybe even hurt) that Parsons reneged on what he thought was a very generous offer, something that exceeded what Parsons himself said he needed.

He didn't trade him immediately because he really didn't want to, they know he's a great, unique player and he (Jones) believed they'd work it out.

Then we got to camp, and Parsons went full turd. Skipped all the practices. Made up a fake injury to keep getting paid and avoid fines.

The Falcons preseason game pushed them all over the edge and they (collectively) said "fuck it, he has to go"

It sux, I think it totally hijacked Schottenheimer's first camp and I would not be surprised if Schott might have went to Jerry and Spawn after that Falcons game and said "enough is enough". The timeline of how they said this trade went down seems to indicate this is probably how it all played out too.

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Regarding the part about not getting what we all expected, I don't know where we sometimes get the idea of what we should expect.

Like we will compare it to the Mack trade, but in that case we had two bad teams making the trade and different cap situations. But we as fans tend to not take context into account.

I went shopping for a small truck. I went to the Toyota dealership and looked at a new Tacoma. They wanted MORE than MSRP. I said I do not care if the truck says Tacoma on it, I will not pay more than sticker. In fact, I won't pay the MSRP.

So I went to Nissan, got myself of Frontier Pro-X with a naturally aspirated V6 (no turbo) for under MSRP. It will last at least to 150k miles, probably more. It still looks nice. It still rides nice etc.

In other words, it takes two to tango. Obviously, a lot of people have no problem paying above MSRP for a Tacoma.

The alternative was what? Insist on more, then have Green Bay say no and you're stuck with Parson's holding out or being a malcontent?

Yeah, I would have liked a good young prospect thrown in there or maybe a third, but I don't think the deal was a bad one. I just heard Mickey say that we don't have 2 firsts in the same year. As far as I know, we do. Ours and there's.

Now we just have to see how it plays out.

dbair1967 said:

Any Joe Blow guy can tell there's a vast difference between how Kenny Clark plays DT v Mazi Smith

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Even beating double team. Hard to guard.

dbair1967 said:

That said, Parsons isn't for everyone. Dak, CeeDee, Zack Martin were wildly popular in the locker room when they went thru contract disputes. It's different, for better/worse, with Micah.

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Jane Slater was on the Herd today and said there were players in the locker room that had issues with Micah and went to the FO about it. Broaddus reported a year ago there were people in the building that wouldn't shed a tear if he was moved. All FWIW.

bbgun said:

Jerry's idiotic insistence on getting a viable DT in the deal (why?)

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Either in his senile mind this team has a chance OR he is selling the homers this team has a prayer to compete this year. Also a diversionary tactic in case the blindest of the blind couldn't see he screwed this up royally with all of a sudden "we have to stop the run".

theoneandonly said:

Jane Slater was on the Herd today and said there were players in the locker room that had issues with Micah and went to the FO about it. Broaddus reported a year ago there were people in the building that wouldn't shed a tear if he was moved. All FWIW.

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She was on GMFB letting some secrets slip too along with Ike Stanback. They're the two people most in the bldg and in the know. The trade wasn't about just any one thing it was about an accumulated ton of things.

dbair1967 said:

I don't think they saw it as a "Herschel trade" at all, the Herschel trade was beyond ridiculous

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The Hershel Walker trade was a once in a lifetime haul that will probably never be duplicated. First of all that was two actual brilliant football men that pulled that off, Jimmy and Bob Ackles. IIRC it was a total of a combination of eleven players and draft picks. I doubt there is GM out there dumb enough to lose a trade to Jerry. Lets also consider that while Hershel was a good player, I believe Micah is better. So what what does our glorious leader do, whines like a bitch all over the media about Micah and his agent, then waits until any real leverage he has evaporates, and trades him for some magic beans. If the Packer picks are in the 20's then the players acquired from those picks likely have second round grades. Add a 30 year DT that might help just enough to screw their draft position and Jerry will have truly shown you his secret sauce.

Seems happy. Was on time to his presser. An adult.

Doomsday said:

Seems happy. Was on time to his presser. An adult.

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douchebag was 50 mins late then had the gall to announce "my back is fine!"

fuck him

dbair1967 said:

douchebag was 50 mins late then had the gall to announce "my back is fine!"

fuck him

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We obtained an adult and ridded ourselves of a child.

theoneandonly said:

The Hershel Walker trade was a once in a lifetime haul that will probably never be duplicated. First of all that was two actual brilliant football men that pulled that off, Jimmy and Bob Ackles. IIRC it was a total of a combination of eleven players and draft picks. I doubt there is GM out there dumb enough to lose a trade to Jerry. Lets also consider that while Hershel was a good player, I believe Micah is better. So what what does our glorious leader do, whines like a bitch all over the media about Micah and his agent, then waits until any real leverage he has evaporates, and trades him for some magic beans. If the Packer picks are in the 20's then the players acquired from those picks likely have second round grades. Add a 30 year DT that might help just enough to screw their draft position and Jerry will have truly shown you his secret sauce.

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I remember being at Wegmans Supermarket in downtown Rochester, NY and reading an article (didn't buy the magazine) about who the most dominant RB in the NFL was. Was it Herschel Walker or Roger Craig?

Herschel was a great player. Landry knew how to use him.

Hershel has bi-polar or something like that and what happened was he got depressed when he was traded. Herschel had a no-trade clause. Jerry "incentivized" Herschel to accept the trade by buying him a house and two Mercedes.

But Herschel never wanted to leave and it affected him. The next thing you know, he wasn't playing as well, then his shoulders gave him problems, but he still managed to have a respectable career as an all-around threat.

When Herschel was in his prime, he was a beast (which is why the Vikings GM made the deal)! It's just that his beast mode didn't last long. Had he never been traded, his career might have gone differently.

Interesting read.....