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Doomsday said:
I like your take on this a lot more now. There hasn't been a genius in history who wasn't also nuttier than a fruitcake.
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Agreed. That's why I/we overlooked a lot of this stuff. These people are just different. But it's evident that he has a problem and no sane man would do what he did after having a seat at the largest table in the world.
 
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Dodger12 said:
I'll say it right here, right now (again). Elon is toast. He's destroyed his credibility and wrecked his brand. The left will never forgive him and the right will never trust him again. He's tarnished his reputation. Trump even took the South African President to the woodshed on national TV, no doubt in support of Musk. Trump will not tolerate this level of disloyalty and I don't blame him.

Musk has a drug problem and has completely imploded to the point that the Tesla board will have to intervene sooner or later. He's a man without an ally after he had the strongest ally in the world. These are not the actions of a sane man. Trump will sue Musk for defamation due to his Epstein Tweet....bet on it.

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President Trump, I'm not thinking about elon either.
 
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Musk has a drug problem and has completely imploded to the point that the Tesla board will have to intervene sooner or later. He's a man without an ally after he had the strongest ally in the world. These are not the actions of a sane man. Trump will sue Musk for defamation due to his Epstein Tweet....bet on it.
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I think I'm a sage (again). You know the lawyers had Elon delete his post and I'd bet a public apology, worded by his attorneys, is near. Trump has been very quiet on communicating with Elon probably because a lawsuit is in the works. Elon is toast.

 
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Creeper said:
I agree. I don't think AOC is popular anywhere but in her district. But don't underestimate the number of retards our schools and media have produced.
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I'm not sure if she is even "popular" there. She's just got access to immense amounts of money and undoubtedly can rig her district elections easily.
 
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Dodger12 said:
I wouldn't be so sure. Republicans are doing NOTHING to earn the enthusiasm of the base. They won't go out for these bums like they did Trump who will be gone in a few years. Trump started a movement and if the Republican party wants to survive, they need to change. It's really that simple.
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Vance will be tough to beat and they have several other strong candidates in the pipeline for POTUS in the coming election cycles.

Now down to H & S, yeah they have some potential issues.
 
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Dodger12 said:
I think I'm a sage (again). You know the lawyers had Elon delete his post and I'd bet a public apology, worded by his attorneys, is near. Trump has been very quiet on communicating with Elon probably because a lawsuit is in the works. Elon is toast.

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I suspect his board of directors came down hard on him as well, and technically they don't "work" for him, they represent the stockholders who have just seen billions of dollars in value erased because of a two day tantrum by Elon.

I posted it in another thread, I wonder if EM ends up in treatment somewhere for awhile in the coming days or weeks.
 
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Musk has never been a "stable genius". Yes, he is or was autistic and judging from his propensity for fathering children with different women, he has some other problems. But this is why Trump should not engage with him. Let Musk pop off like a child on his own. Clearly, Musk is offended that Trump and WH staff have shoved him aside for the sake of Trump's presidency. Trump let Musk get too close and too powerful. I think that's what this fight is all about. Trump clipped Musk's wings and he's pissed off. Trump had no choice.
 
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Creeper said:
I find this story hard to believe. It just seems so unlike Scott Bessent. This sounds like another "Trump attacked secret service agents in his limo" story.
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I don't know. It seems very plausible to me. Bessent is not the one who started the violent end of the confrontation and the shoulder check by Musk seems believable.
 
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Creeper said:
I find this story hard to believe. It just seems so unlike Scott Bessent. This sounds like another "Trump attacked secret service agents in his limo" story.
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It might be true, supposedly a number of people in Trump's administration were fed up with Elon for weeks.

The other scenario I thought might account for the black eye is it was someone on Trump's security/ SS detail who did it after Elon started throwing a hissy fit.

I absolutely don't believe his kid did it now.
 
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dbair1967 said:
It might be true, supposedly a number of people in Trump's administration were fed up with Elon for weeks.

The other scenario I thought might account for the black eye is it was someone on Trump's security/ SS detail who did it after Elon started throwing a hissy fit.

I absolutely don't believe his kid did it now.
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I wouldn't put anything pasat Elon Musk, but I just don't think Scott Bessent would get physical with anyone. I see him as one of the cooler heads in the White House. Who knows, maybe he has a short fuse.
 
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