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which makes me wonder, if the election was stolen from Trump then how the hell is he going to win when nothing has changed to stop whatever occurred to give Biden the win in 2020?
Some things have changed. Some states have enacted voter ID laws. Other have gone back to previous means of voting instead of mailing out ballots to everyone. I don't know, but I hope Republicans will do better job of scrutinizing the process this time.

My concern has always been that the allegations of fraud have not be investigated transparently. My concern is that Democrats have fought in the courts to block some investigations and judges have backed them up preventing the kind of thorough investigation and transparency the country needs. The people have a right to see all voting data. How else can we ensure integrity?

And worse, if there is fraud suspected, how do we uncover it if the government is choosing to prosecute anyone who challenges the results? We should have learned so much from the 2020 election but instead we chose to line up on two sides and just yell at each other.
 

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Do the Turds at SNL realize that M. Obama has a better chance at winning the D Primary than does Nikki Haley winning the R Primary???

 

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There is a long way to go and we need to see the polling at the state level. Trump winning in Oklahoma by 80% doesn't matter when Biden is winning in California by 20%. The key states, PA, GA, MI, and AZ are the states to watch. But again, it is only February. We have until November. A lot can change. You can believe the Democrats have something special planned for Trump later in the summer.

I think they are going to replace Biden at some point, and it will be for health related reasons. They will slide someone else in who will be younger and more popular than Joe. I don't think it will be Michelle but nothing would surprise me. And it doesn't really matter. The idea will be to give centrist voters in both parties an option to vote for anyone but Trump.
 

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I think this might be the absolute most hilarious thing I have ever seen in US primary politics.

This stupid kunt couldnt even run unopposed and win. I can't wait to hear her and her people's spin on this.

 

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Trump's immunity case was a delay tactic anyway. But this ruling almost guarantees the Supreme Court will hear the case.

The question will be, does a president enjoy immunity when performing his duties as president? I am not sure Trump can argue he was acting as president when he gave his speech on Jan 6 or when he attempted to get states to investigate fraud. But that is separate from the argument that a president has immunity. If not, then Obama can be prosecuted from drone attacks he conducted. Bill Clinton could be prosecuted for his missile attack on an aspirin factory. Biden for his admitted extortion of Ukraine.

The SC has already ruled a president if immune from civil suits while president, but the question of criminal liability has not been answered.
 

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Trump's immunity case was a delay tactic anyway. But this ruling almost guarantees the Supreme Court will hear the case.

The question will be, does a president enjoy immunity when performing his duties as president? I am not sure Trump can argue he was acting as president when he gave his speech on Jan 6 or when he attempted to get states to investigate fraud. But that is separate from the argument that a president has immunity. If not, then Obama can be prosecuted from drone attacks he conducted. Bill Clinton could be prosecuted for his missile attack on an aspirin factory. Biden for his admitted extortion of Ukraine.

The SC has already ruled a president if immune from civil suits while president, but the question of criminal liability has not been answered.
I still don't see how anyone can claim that the only thing Trump is guilty of is stating his opinion. His opinion is the election was stolen and all this "he wanted the election overturned" crap is just that, crap. He only wanted them to delay certifying results until some investigation was done, and there was plenty of evidence to show some things were OBVIOUSLY not right.

It's obvious now, but once the country starts prosecuting people for stating opinions, our country is 100% done and the conversion to a total dictatorship is complete.
 

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I still don't see how anyone can claim that the only thing Trump is guilty of is stating his opinion. His opinion is the election was stolen and all this "he wanted the election overturned" crap is just that, crap. He only wanted them to delay certifying results until some investigation was done, and there was plenty of evidence to show some things were OBVIOUSLY not right.

It's obvious now, but once the country starts prosecuting people for stating opinions, our country is 100% done and the conversion to a total dictatorship is complete.

What I do not understand is how our justice system cannot see what is going on here. Trump involved in all these court cases at the same time, right before an election? Prosecutors cutting corners to ensure he is tried and convicted in liberal courts before the election, denying him due process?

The January 6 case is a joke. So if the Georgia case. Clearly Trump has biased prosecutors AND, more importantly, biased judges who should recuse themselves. Tanya Chutkan has no business hearing the Trump case on Jan 6 considering the prejudicial statements she made while sentencing other Jan 6 defendants. This is unacceptable in our system where people are supposed to get a fair trial. Our legal system is supposed to protect the innocent, not rush them into a prison cell because we don't like them. Not one case brought against Trump is back by evidence, facts, the law, or precedent. Look at the documents case. The National Archives testified on the record that almost every president has kept classified documents upon leaving office and yet only Trump is criminally prosecuted.

I could go through every one of his court cases and shred the case based on the evidence. Trump cannot get a fair trial. There are no untainted jurors who have been bombarded by the media for 7 years with negativity about Trump - including pronouncements of guilt by judges and high ranking officials. If this is not fixed by the Supreme Court, our system will be permanently damaged.
 

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Here's the C-SPAN video of the SCOTUS Hearing, with annotations as to who is speaking.

 

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In declining to prosecute Biden, Hur’s office also cited what it said was Biden’s “limited memory” both during his 2017 recorded conversations with the ghostwriter and in an interview with investigators last year.

“Given Mr. Biden’s limited precision and recall during his interviews with his ghostwriter and with our office, jurors may hesitate to place too much evidentiary weight on a single eight-word utterance to his ghostwriter about finding classified documents in Virginia, in the absence of other, more direct evidence.”

 
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