Newy Scruggs interview w/Jerry (vid)

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Shouldn't they just take into consideration what they have at the position when they make their board? If you have a QB who you feel is going to be playing at a high level for 4 years or whatever, then any QB should be moved down the line until you hit a point where drafting a QB to trade him or the guy you have makes sense. If you have Romo and get Andrew Luck at 18, then you draft him and trade Romo. If you're rating QBs in the first round that you wouldn't take in the first round because you have a QB who you just paid big bucks to, then it just adds confusion to the "process."

I don't think they take their own players into consideration when they set their board. That said, they probably don't do as much homework on a player they're not likely to get/draft. I've never understood the "don't draft for need" edict. Unless you're absolutely loaded, most draftees presumably fill a need.
 

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I don't think they take their own players into consideration when they set their board. That said, they probably don't do as much homework on a player they're not likely to get/draft. I've never understood the "don't draft for need" edict. Unless you're absolutely loaded, most draftees presumably fill a need.

Its definitely hard to figure them out sometimes. They say they draft to their board, but there are clearly many examples recently where they didnt.

My opinion of this past draft is Jerry may have had his own ****** board with Manziel #1, but nobody else in the organization did.
 

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Not going to see Manziel's improvisation and playground skills in TC practices.

I think he's set up to fail in Cleveland anyway. Cold winter weather, tons of wind, bad grass field... That whole division is basically about defense and it's hard for any QB there to put up very good numbers. I think he'd have a much better chance with a dome or good-weather franchise.
 
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I think he's set up to fail in Cleveland anyway. Cold winter weather, tons of wind, bad grass field... That whole division is basically about defense and it's hard for any QB there to put up very good numbers. I think he'd have a much better chance with a dome or good-weather franchise.

he is basically a tiny faster version of Big Ben tho
 

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he is basically a tiny faster version of Big Ben tho

yeah, with a lesser arm and far less size to handle those big hits

R-Berger is obviously no genius but I don't think he is the knucklehead Manziel is either
 

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I think he's set up to fail in Cleveland anyway. Cold winter weather, tons of wind, bad grass field... .

Yep, agree 100%

I think he needed to go to a dome team to have a better chance at success, and even then I'm not sure how good he'd be.
 
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yeah, with a lesser arm and far less size to handle those big hits

R-Berger is obviously no genius but I don't think he is the knucklehead Manziel is either

obviously the idea is that he would take less hits than ben because he can move around much more quickly, whereas ben just stands there and gets hammered most of the time. I mean he's mobile in the pocket but alot of his "escapability" comes because he's strong as shit
 

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obviously the idea is that he would take less hits than ben because he can move around much more quickly, whereas ben just stands there and gets hammered most of the time. I mean he's mobile in the pocket but alot of his "escapability" comes because he's strong as shit

I guess we'll see, but the weather and shitty field are gonna be factors against him there. Not to mention that he probably isn't going to have a lot of offensive talent around him.
 
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