Worst Possible Outcome

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This was the absolute worst possible outcome for real Cowboys fans that demand a winning team. Romo getting injured and last nights game

In front of a packed house and most likely a stellar ratings winner for the network. This (injury ravaged) team fought hard. While everyone was expecting them to get blown out. They did the exact opposite. They showed some heart and desperation.
At the end of the day that game last night cemented meritocracy for us true fans because once again there will be no change. Garrett will stay. Jerry will dictate the personnel and the draft

Midswat had a real telling post of where he is as a fan and where in fact most of us are. I cant remember a season where I ever missed a game. Weddings, Christenings etc. I would base my entire life around watching this team.

Not this year. I have missed 3 games this year including the majority of last nights game and its the best I have felt in a long time.
I was hoping for change to somehow lure me back in for next season but I wont get it

Here to getting excited for the draft that will almost certainly let me down once again
 
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Yeah... last night was bad.

I mean, as a fan it was good to see the team playing hard and all that. But the real story is this... had the team and their incompetent head coach not blown a number of games earlier in the year in such ridiculous fashion, then last night wouldn't have even mattered.

It's going to be another fruitless offseason of more of the same. 2014 won't be much better, if at all. I trust the Eagles, Giants, and Redskins to all improve more than I do the Cowboys at this point. We're going 8-8 again. Maybe we break through and get to 9-7.

Oh well... it's kind of relieving not being such a die hard. Like you, I scheduled life around Cowboys games and the outcomes had a direct impact on my mood for days. So glad that isn't the case.

If you're a Cowboys fan, and you're happy with yesterdays outcome, you're a fucking imbecile.
 

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I never truly bought this before, at least since Parcells was hired. But if Garrett stays like I'm sure he will, we really are in firm Al Davis territory. Better just buckle in for the Lane Kiffin/Tom Cable/other JAGs I can't remember era of 6-10 to 4-12 for years and years.

I'll get over it eventually but I do feel bad for players like Romo who I think really bust their ass and want to win but aren't going to be put in position to do so.
 

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Yeah... last night was bad.

I mean, as a fan it was good to see the team playing hard and all that. But the real story is this... had the team and their incompetent head coach not blown a number of games earlier in the year in such ridiculous fashion, then last night wouldn't have even mattered.

THIS ^^^^
 

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Shanahan and Frazier canned this morning. Zimmer supposedly on Redskins radar.
 

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I'll get over it eventually but I do feel bad for players like Romo who I think really bust their ass and want to win but aren't going to be put in position to do so.

I don't and don't understand why anyone would. If he didn't like it he could have refused to sign an extension and left.

Romo isn't part of any solution anyway and has been part of the problem, despite what some want to believe. He hasn't exactly played well in a lot of these end games himself. And his attitude/comments in the past towards winning and losing arnt very endearing to fans like myself either.

He's been a good player but he isn't without flaw or blame him either.
 

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Would've been nice to have a playmaker at qb last night to turn some of those 3's into 7's.

There's a 1000 page thread at idiot zone about it. Only problem is nobody knows what Romo would have done had he played. He might have thrown 4 TDs or he might have thrown 4 picks. Orton played really well most of the game and probably made a lot of throws Romo isn't able to make right now due to the back.
 

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I don't and don't understand why anyone would. If he didn't like it he could have refused to sign an extension and left.

Romo isn't part of any solution anyway and has been part of the problem, despite what some want to believe. He hasn't exactly played well in a lot of these end games himself. And his attitude/comments in the past towards winning and losing arnt very endearing to fans like myself either.

He's been a good player but he isn't without flaw or blame him either.

No, he's not flawless and isn't totally blameless either. He's not perfect for sure. But he's a hell of a lot better QB than Garrett is a coach. And I know he's paid a ton of money -- all these guys are. But players like he and Witten really do care and have played not just hurt but injured fairly seriously many many times. They're totally different than a joke like Claiborne. That's why I feel bad for them.
 
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He also didn't hit dez on any deep balls and checked down too much.

For some reason foles saw a pass rush that wasn't there, otherwise we surrender 40 points last night.
 

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No, he's not flawless and isn't totally blameless either. He's not perfect for sure. But he's a hell of a lot better QB than Garrett is a coach. And I know he's paid a ton of money -- all these guys are. But players like he and Witten really do care and have played not just hurt but injured fairly seriously many many times. They're totally different than a joke like Claiborne. That's why I feel bad for them.

Jones has made it blatantly clear all players have an open door policy to him. If they think the HC sux then they should do something about it.
 
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No really just eat my ass. Maybe if you'd listen to me more often you'd stop being so wrong all the time.

Hey did orton choke
 

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For some reason foles saw a pass rush that wasn't there, otherwise we surrender 40 points last night.
He really did. I think he got so scared to throw a pick that he couldn't pull the trigger.

Got a feeling Foles has a lot of Matt Schaub in him. Good enough to run a system and beat bad teams, never good enough to win the game against good teams like you need to ever get anywhere.
 

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He really did. I think he got so scared to throw a pick that he couldn't pull the trigger.

Got a feeling Foles has a lot of Matt Schaub in him. Good enough to run a system and beat bad teams, never good enough to win the game against good teams like you need to ever get anywhere.

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He really did. I think he got so scared to throw a pick that he couldn't pull the trigger.

Got a feeling Foles has a lot of Matt Schaub in him. Good enough to run a system and beat bad teams, never good enough to win the game against good teams like you need to ever get anywhere.

It was like they were terrified of him throwing a pass in the 4th Q, even though he threw no picks previously. Then again, we weren't stopping McCoy, so shutting down the passing game probably made sense.
 
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Up until the pick at the end, I liked how Orton was managing the quick slants and throws. Of course, he was very very rusty and threw balls into the dirt, behind the players and overthrew Dez twice on the sideline. romo wouldn't have done that.

The big issue is still...and apparently will be next year...the system and the lack of intelligence in managing the game. If Dallas gets a turnover, Jason has issued that they immediately pass downfield. If it is 2nd or 3rd down and short and the defense moves the secondary up to stop the run, Dallas must pass no matter what time of game it is. Last night at 3rd and 2 in Philly territory, instead of Dallas falling forward for two yards and getting the first down, he throws with a rusty QB and an improbable play. Even on those plays, there is supposed to be play action. There is none.

On the 2 point conversion, why was there no play action?

Because the design is flawed and game strategy is predetermined, every game. Dallas had their chances, but they had to fight through both Philly's and Jason's game plan.

My only hope here is Jerry will keep Jason until all the other teams have their coaches and then fire him. I can think of no bigger insult to Jerry right now than for Jason to go to another team and succeed. Jerry thought he found his whiz kid, much like Romo, that he could almost take full credit for discovering, and to succeed elsewhere, although extremely improbable, would be like buying land that was thought to have oil and eventually selling it to someone who was able to get the oil that Jerry was not. Jerry is still very much a property owner. He likes to acquire property that may have value later, but his property assessing has a terrible brain trust who keep him prospecting Arkins and Garretts.
 
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