This is what we ought to do...

[Midswat]

Put Romo and Ware on the trading block.

Miles too. I don't care if we only get a 7th for Miles.

Some team would be desperate enough to give up a #1 for Romo I bet.

Ware would probably get you a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Then, with Orton or Tanney, we'd likely tank the rest of our games without even trying.

Then, I'd shat can Garrett at seasons end.

Then, with our really high draft pick from being a bad team, plus with the other 1st plus additional picks, I'd do my best to trade up to the #1 or #2 pick in the draft.

Then... I'd use the first overall on Jadaveon Clowney.

Then I'd use the second overall pick on (insert best draft eligible QB's name here - Bridgewater?)

Who's with me?


#zonethread






#nobutseriously

 

[ZeroClub]

The Cowboys will be truly horrible soon enough (when Romo deteriorates and/or retires), there is no need to jump there now.

I like Clowney as a player. In a different era, he'd be a great pick. But a high quality DE is not critical to the success of franchises today (look at Ware).

IMO, you gotta go for offense ... the best skill position player available.

 

[cockstrong]

I can see a number of teams trading a 1 for Romo. Jacksonville, Minnesota

I'm all for it

 

[Midswat]

I like Clowney as a player. In a different era, he'd be a great pick. But a high quality DE is not critical to the success of franchises today (look at Ware).

IMO, you gotta go for offense ... the best skill position player available.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

I mean, sure, if you have Peyton Manning at QB, a guy who gets the ball out in 2 seconds then maybe. But guys like him don't grow on trees.

You still need pressure players on defense.

 

[JBond]

Trade Romo? You guys are freaking nuts.

We just signed him for a $108 million and he is the starter until he is 42. I understand everyone is frustrated but asinine ideas are not going to help. Trade Ware and Romo and then what? We would have to cut many other players to offset the cap hit. First round picks? Right... I am sure we would use them wisely. You should be aware we are already at $147,000,000 next year. Dumping Romo will cost an additional $20 million. The Cowboys are the model franchise, and not in a good way. Just do the opposite and you will be in good shape.

 

[ZeroClub]

I'm not sure I agree with that.

I mean, sure, if you have Peyton Manning at QB, a guy who gets the ball out in 2 seconds then maybe. But guys like him don't grow on trees.

You still need pressure players on defense.

I realize what you are saying, but if you are building a team, I think it is best to build your team to beat the best teams.

Mostly you do that with your offense .. because great offense beats great defense. Why spin your wheels building a great defense if the best QBs can put up lots of points on your defense? You only have so many resources, and so you are better off concentrating on offense.

Specifically, concentrate on developing an aggressive offense and try to manage the game so that you get the last shot at the buzzer.

That's what this is mostly about.

 

[cockstrong]

Andrew Luck took a 1-15 team and made them a factor. Start with that idea

 

[UVAwahoos]

Luck has solid coaching, a young up-and-coming GM and owner who loves the spotlight but is also smart enough to let the football people handle football stuff.

In other words, he'd be an 8-8 QB at best in Dallas.

 

[Jon88]

Luck doesn't play with a bunch of country club idiots like we have here.

 

[boozeman]

With Romo...I don't think they'd be in a hurry to absorb that contract Jerry Jones gave him. It makes him practically Cowboys property until he's cut...trading is not an option.

 

[Midswat]

Don't bother me with your troublesome details and facts.

 

[cmd34(work)]

With Romo...I don't think they'd be in a hurry to absorb that contract Jerry Jones gave him. It makes him practically Cowboys property until he's cut...trading is not an option.

More so for us than another team. We'd never survive the hit. It would be something like a $41M cap hit next year for us.

Another team trading for him would be on the hook for his guaranteed base next year of $13.5M. They could release him or more likely restructure him with no cap penalty at all. In fact, the team that traded for him would take some of that $13.5M guaranteed base salary and turn it into a signing bonus and completely restructure the next few years of the deal. Romo gets to pocket the $25M signing bonus Jerry just gave him plus whatever signing bonus his new team would give him in exchange for bringing down his cap hits for remaining years. Everyone wins (but us).

 

[junk]

Trade Romo? You guys are freaking nuts.

We just signed him for a $108 million and he is the starter until he is 42. I understand everyone is frustrated but asinine ideas are not going to help. Trade Ware and Romo and then what? We would have to cut many other players to offset the cap hit. First round picks? Right... I am sure we would use them wisely. You should be aware we are already at $147,000,000 next year. Dumping Romo will cost an additional $20 million. The Cowboys are the model franchise, and not in a good way. Just do the opposite and you will be in good shape.

I actually agree with JBond for once (marks calendar).

Our wagon is hitched to Romo for the next couple of years due to that new contract. $41 million in dead money to cut him. As JBond said, $20 million for two years if you did a June 1st cut. The team currently has like $142 million on the books for a cap that'll probably be around $120ish.

More than likely, Romo and Ware will both be restructured next year just to get under the cap. Probably Carr too along with a couple of cuts.

You are going to go into the season needing a starting DE (Selvie and Spencer are both free agents) and probably a starting DT.

The best hope in this window is that Wilcox really comes on strong and contributes at safety, fill up your DL in the draft, hope Doug Free keeps playing well and revamp the coaching staff to really maximize this team's talent.

 

[Texas Ace]

Put Romo and Ware on the trading block.

Miles too. I don't care if we only get a 7th for Miles.

Some team would be desperate enough to give up a #1 for Romo I bet.

Ware would probably get you a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Then, with Orton or Tanney, we'd likely tank the rest of our games without even trying.

Then, I'd shat can Garrett at seasons end.

Then, with our really high draft pick from being a bad team, plus with the other 1st plus additional picks, I'd do my best to trade up to the #1 or #2 pick in the draft.

Then... I'd use the first overall on Jadaveon Clowney.

Then I'd use the second overall pick on (insert best draft eligible QB's name here - Bridgewater?)

Who's with me?


#zonethread






#nobutseriously

I'd be all for it.

Start dismantling this choking piece of shit loser of a team and look to rebuild it with mentally strong players who have leadership abilities.

You still have to solve the Jerry Jones problem, but I'd be all for your scenario.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I actually agree with JBond for once (marks calendar).

Our wagon is hitched to Romo for the next couple of years due to that new contract. $41 million in dead money to cut him. As JBond said, $20 million for two years if you did a June 1st cut. The team currently has like $142 million on the books for a cap that'll probably be around $120ish.

More than likely, Romo and Ware will both be restructured next year just to get under the cap. Probably Carr too along with a couple of cuts.

You are going to go into the season needing a starting DE (Selvie and Spencer are both free agents) and probably a starting DT.

The best hope in this window is that Wilcox really comes on strong and contributes at safety, fill up your DL in the draft, hope Doug Free keeps playing well and revamp the coaching staff to really maximize this team's talent.

Same here. Hope one of the best defensive linemen is still there when we pick, hopefully resign Hatcher (can we afford him?) and maybe make a smart midrange FA signing. If we could shore up our DL, I think we'd actually be in pretty good shape.

 

[junk]

Same here. Hope one of the best defensive linemen is still there when we pick, hopefully resign Hatcher (can we afford him?) and maybe make a smart midrange FA signing. If we could shore up our DL, I think we'd actually be in pretty good shape.

Gonna be hard to bring back Hatcher (and really, that is a desperation move of a poorly run franchise IMO), but you could provided you were willing to kick enough salary into future years. Just depends how bad you want that eventual kick to be once Romo and Ware are done. Still gotta try to re-sign Dez and Tyron too.

Cap wise, it is going to be tight for a few years. They literally restructured everyone they could this year and were still cap constrained. But, I think you could restructure Romo and Ware and that alone should get you back close to cap compliance.

I think next year is the year to move on from Austin. You save $400K by doing it. You could redo Witten, Carr and Lee and get yourself some breathing room. What is odd is that for as high as the cap number is, there are only about 9 guys with salaries over $3.5 million.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Why do you say it would be desperation? Unless we overpaid, which is never a good idea. At his age, I'm not sure how big a deal he might get. Probably too big -- it only takes one team -- but I do think he's a very good player and I hate to let good players go at a position of need.

Miles has to be a goner at his price tag. That's what was nice about the TW pick.

 

[junk]

Why do you say it would be desperation? Unless we overpaid, which is never a good idea. At his age, I'm not sure how big a deal he might get. Probably too big -- it only takes one team -- but I do think he's a very good player and I hate to let good players go at a position of need.

Miles has to be a goner at his price tag. That's what was nice about the TW pick.

If the price was right, it'd be fine. However, I think Ratliff is done, Spencer will leave and they'll realize they only have one starter left on an already thin DL so they overreact and pay him. I think the plan all along has been to let him walk.

I hate signing guys that'll be 32 this offseason to anything more than a 1 or 2 year deal.

I did like the TW pick. Much more than the Escobar pick.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The TW pick was to move Austin inside to the slot so that the Cowboys would envision Jerry's dream of nothing but 3-4, 6'2" 200lb WRs on the field at one time.

 

[junk]

The TW pick was to move Austin inside to the slot so that the Cowboys would envision Jerry's dream of nothing but 3-4, 6'2" 200lb WRs on the field at one time.

Well, in this case, I'd rather have three 6'2 200 pound receivers that can run on the field than two TEs who can't stretch the field.

3rd receiver is almost always more productive than a 2nd TE.

I do agree, however, that Dallas tends to gravitate towards those big receivers rather than the shiftier, smaller guys.