Zoners: This is why Jerry will never change

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The Dallas Cowboys are the NFL's first and only $2 billion franchise, Forbes Magazine announced Wednesday as it released its annual team value list.

Michael Ozanian, Forbes' executive editor, said the Cowboys' value, which the magazine tabs at $2.1 billion, is "a conservative estimate."

Ozanian said the magazine took into account the Cowboys' $80 million in sponsorship income, their state-of-the art stadium and the fact that they are the only team in the NFL that distributes its own merchandise to retailers.

Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys in 1989 for $140 million. That's roughly a 715 percent increase to today's value, factoring in inflation.
Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys in 1989 for $140 million. That's roughly a 715 percent increase to today's value, factoring in inflation.

While the Cowboys stood atop the list for the sixth consecutive year, the New England Patriots (worth $1.63 billion) passed the Washington Redskins ($1.6 billion) for the second spot.

The New York Giants, valued at $1.46 billion, landed in fourth and the Houston Texans rounded out the top five at $1.3 billion.

Despite playing in the same stadium, the magazine estimated the net worth of the New York Jets at about $200 million less than the Giants.

"We have the Giants bringing in $27 million more in revenue, plus they're getting the Super Bowl bump on ticket prices," Ozanian said.

Despite the threat of concussion litigation that could eventually cost the NFL billions of dollars, the magazine reports only one franchise -- the Cincinnati Bengals -- lost value from last season.

"There wasn't any loss of value reflected in the recent Cleveland Browns sale," Ozanian said. "The investment bankers we spoke to told us that prices haven't dropped in terms of what people are offering for small or large shares of teams."

Forbes stated that 20 NFL teams are worth more than $1 billion, the most of any league. That number is up from 15 teams last year.

The Bengals are worth $871 million compared to $875 million last season, a drop of less than 1 percent.

Forbes projects only two teams had operating losses last year -- the Pittsburgh Steelers ($1.1 billion), due to a higher payroll, and the Oakland Raiders ($785 million), thanks to having the lowest revenues in the league.

The magazine concluded that the two teams that had the biggest jump in value were the Minnesota Vikings ($975 million) and the San Francisco 49ers ($1.17 billion), whose values jumped 22 and 19 percent, respectively, as a result of stadiums being built.

The Cowboys' $2.1 billion value matches that of the Los Angeles Dodgers purchase by Guggenheim Partners. Forbes says only Manchester United is worth more. The magazine said the soccer team was worth $2.23 billion, but the team's recent offering on the New York Stock Exchanged valued it at $2.9 billion.
 
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Finish 6-10 and then 8-8 and what is the reward?

More money. He has it all figured out.
 

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There is no correlation between franchise value and W-L record for any sports franchise ever.
 

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Zoners! Lol

Great point though.

This is one side I will never change on.

Business comes first... $$$$$$$$$$


Period
 

superpunk

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Thanks, Sherlock.

Did you know that the sky is blue? Read it right here.

So why would you claim that Jerry will never be motivated to change?

The business is going to be worth what it is regardless of whether we win or lose - so that can be ruled out as a motivating factor in either direction. And this is true for all sports franchises at this point.

So why use this as an example? Poorly thought out.
 

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Actually, the answer was in your title.

Zoners. Zoner mentality. Foam fingers unite!

I'm not talking about the played out homer stuff, I'm talking about the fanbase as a whole being dumb. Most everyday, average cowboy fans don't know a thing about this team. They see Jerry as a celebrity owner. "that's cool dude, Jerry the man!"

I thought that one time, then I started to actually follow the team closer. I would say, without hesitation, 90% of the fanbase would honestly say that Romo is the problem with this team before they'd ever consider Jerry a problem.

Guys like crazy cowboy, cowboy joe, hostile and couchscout personify the make up of this fanbase.
 

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There is no correlation between franchise value and W-L record for any sports franchise ever.

wut?

If the Carolina Panthers reel off 3 straight Super bowl wins, their value as a franchise wouldn't go up?

Teams that were losers, lost local support/revenue, haven't had to change cities and names because of revenue?

Or what are you saying?
 

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wut?

If the Carolina Panthers reel off 3 straight Super bowl wins, their value as a franchise wouldn't go up?

Teams that were losers, lost local support/revenue, haven't had to change cities and names because of revenue?

Or what are you saying?

You can build a fan-base by developing a dynasty, and maybe that helps you get things like a new stadium which actually drives value up, but franchise values largely are what they are - which is why you don't see Pittsburgh and New England passing Dallas or the Rangers passing the Yankees. You aren't getting stadiums and television deals based on how many games you win you get those based on how popular you are. With fandom most people are set in their ways or just take after their parents so you don't see alot of movement due to win-loss at this point in history.
 

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You can build a fan-base by developing a dynasty, and maybe that helps you get things like a new stadium which actually drives value up, but franchise values largely are what they are - which is why you don't see Pittsburgh and New England passing Dallas or the Rangers passing the Yankees. You aren't getting stadiums and television deals based on how many games you win you get those based on how popular you are. With fandom most people are set in their ways or just take after their parents so you don't see alot of movement due to win-loss at this point in history.

We both right.
 
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I'd totally talk about this with interest if this was posted 6 weeks ago.

As it is... we play the New York football Giants in 5 1/2 hours.

:towel
 

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Actually, the answer was in your title.

Zoners. Zoner mentality. Foam fingers unite!

I'm not talking about the played out homer stuff, I'm talking about the fanbase as a whole being dumb. Most everyday, average cowboy fans don't know a thing about this team. They see Jerry as a celebrity owner. "that's cool dude, Jerry the man!"

I thought that one time, then I started to actually follow the team closer. I would say, without hesitation, 90% of the fanbase would honestly say that Romo is the problem with this team before they'd ever consider Jerry a problem.

Guys like crazy cowboy, cowboy joe, hostile and couchscout personify the make up of this fanbase.

dbair frowns at your last statement.
 

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OP is right. We see years of mediocrity because we look at the football field. Jerry sees years of win because he looks at the P/L and balance sheet. Until and unless the team starts to become irrelevant, like when he hired Parcells, there will be no motivation for him to change.

Maybe Stephen, being born into vast wealth, will be different and see the same scoreboard we do.
 
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OP is right. We see years of mediocrity because we look at the football field. Jerry sees years of win because he looks at the P/L and balance sheet. Until and unless the team starts to become irrelevant, like when he hired Parcells, there will be no motivation for him to change.

Exactly.
 

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Except for the part where you retards assume that a man who has risen to the top of his profession isn't motivated by success/winning at all.

A guy who has more money than he could ever possibly need only cares about money. Right. That's why these guys buy sports franchises.
 

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But that's what we're saying, SP. He's been immensely successful. He's turned 100 million dollars into close to two billion.

Sure, he's rather win than lose, all things being equal. But he doesn't want to win enough to give up control again like he did with Parcells. There's really no motivation to.
 
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