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Gotta hand it to you libtards, no matter how ridiculous the defense of Obama is you'll do it.


In other words, you don't want to talk facts so you will just sling insults around.


BTW, open enrollment just started and my insurance premiums did not go up. Told ya so! lol
 

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In other words, you don't want to talk facts so you will just sling insults around.


BTW, open enrollment just started and my insurance premiums did not go up. Told ya so! lol

Yep, clearly Obama saved you from a large increase. He's definitely the messiah.

Do you get the same faggy tingling up your leg that Chris Matthews gets? Or maybe you were one of those that fainted at the sound of the chosen one's voice.
 

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In other words, you don't want to talk facts so you will just sling insults around.


BTW, open enrollment just started and my insurance premiums did not go up. Told ya so! lol

dbair is just getting obliterated by you in this thread. He keeps coming back to the woodshed for more though.
 

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dbair is just getting obliterated by you in this thread. He keeps coming back to the woodshed for more though.

Right, because anyone that points to how lousy everything with the economy is and notes that everything has gotten worse under his watch, is apparently wrong. While the libtards who blame everything else and make excuses for the worst President ever are right.
 

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Right, because anyone that points to how lousy everything with the economy is and notes that everything has gotten worse under his watch, is apparently wrong. While the libtards who blame everything else and make excuses for the worst President ever are right.

Bring some facts instead of giving your best Bill O'Reilly impression and we can talk.
 

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Bring some facts instead of giving your best Bill O'Reilly impression and we can talk.

you and all your kind have been presented with numerous facts, yet you chose to ignore them

unemployment- up
deficit- up
spending- massively up
price of gasoline- up
housing market- down

Everything cant be free...entitlements cant go on forever...eventually stuff has to be paid for, and its unrealistic to expect a small fraction of a country's tax payers to pay the bill for all this crap. Socialism doesnt work, its been proven over time.
 

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you and all your kind have been presented with numerous facts, yet you chose to ignore them

unemployment- up
deficit- up
spending- massively up
price of gasoline- up
housing market- down

Everything cant be free...entitlements cant go on forever...eventually stuff has to be paid for, and its unrealistic to expect a small fraction of a country's tax payers to pay the bill for all this crap. Socialism doesnt work, its been proven over time.

Employment - up http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
deficit - the size of the budget deficit peaked in 2009 and has decreased since then. http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12316 Clinton eliminated the deficit, but it came right back once Bush was in the White House
spending - increases in spending also peaked in 2009 and have decreased since then. http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/GovView.asp
Gas - how stupid are you to think the president controls this?
housing - seriously? Fixing the housing market would amount to socialism. It is correcting itself after being inflated by the banks.
 

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In other words, you don't want to talk facts so you will just sling insults around.


BTW, open enrollment just started and my insurance premiums did not go up. Told ya so! lol

Facts? You want to talk facts?

Unemployment 9.0% at present, when the Dems took full control of the House and Senate it was 4%
Gas Prices $3.45 when Obama took office it was $2.25 and going down
Housing down 1.9% when the Dems took full control of the House and Senate it was 3.6% positive
Debt, DOUBLED since Obama took office and that isn't even really looking at how much debt the Dems forced Bush to sign off on or be publicly brutalized his last two years of office.

Does that look like a strategy that is working? That we need to double down on?? No, you'd just rather rattle off Faux news and other lame talking points that make no sense now that Obama has a track record outside of the Senate besides voting present. Things he said in 2007 and 2008 while politicizing about Bush he's continued doing and also made them worse, with no one to blame because until last November he had SUPER MAJORITIES in both houses, meaning he could have passed I'm the President forever and it could have passed.

Go blow yourself.
 

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Employment - up http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

You are saying that because it decreased .05% it's up? Hello holiday season

deficit - the size of the budget deficit peaked in 2009 and has decreased since then. http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12316 Clinton eliminated the deficit, but it came right back once Bush was in the White House
spending - increases in spending also peaked in 2009 and have decreased since then. http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/GovView.asp
Gas - how stupid are you to think the president controls this?


Ummm, he's shut off all oil production in the US basically, how is this NOT ON HIM?



housing - seriously? Fixing the housing market would amount to socialism. It is correcting itself after being inflated by the banks.

You blame the banks when there is evidence that as far back as Clinton's Presidency there were memos given out from the Senate and the President himself telling banks they would be basically run into the ground unless they gave in and gave out loans to people that couldn't afford them? SERIOUSLY??

Insanity, it has a name. It is Cythim
 

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Wow. Those numbers are so completely irrelevant it is sad to see you throw them around. Those numbers have everything to do with the recession and nothing to do with who was in control of the House and Senate. The Recession began in December 2007(read this from the NBER), the same year Democrats took control. What did they do over that time to burst the housing bubble, causing a serious decline in jobs (because of no more new construction), limited bank loans (because they needed capital to keep from going under), and the loss of more jobs because companies needed capital since banks were not loaning? What did they do to raise the price of gas? Hell, gas prices initially spiked under Republican control and steadily rose since then. What happened to the deficit before and after Bush took office? There was no deficit, then tax cuts for the rich and back to spending money we don't have. Way to go Republicans!

Fuck off.
 

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It isn't from the holiday season genius, the numbers are seasonally adjusted. The point is they are moving in the right direction.

Ummm, he's shut off all oil production in the US basically, how is this NOT ON HIM?

Gas prices peaked under Bush, not Obama. Since then the oil industry has found a price that consumers are willing to pay and it is higher than most of us like. No amount of US production is going to help with gas prices, only fools like you would believe otherwise.

You blame the banks when there is evidence that as far back as Clinton's Presidency there were memos given out from the Senate and the President himself telling banks they would be basically run into the ground unless they gave in and gave out loans to people that couldn't afford them? SERIOUSLY??

LMAO you watch too much O'Reilly and Glen Beck. Memos? Seriously? This is what you are coming at me with? Do your own research instead of relying on some loudmouth with an agenda to do it for you.
 

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Yes, we could do better than Obama. A lot better. Problem is there is just noone out there who offers that promise. I graded out as a conservative Republican, so of course I would like one, any Republican, to become president. But I'm not going to choose a president strictly on party lines. I'll just do what I've been doing, and not vote again because shit isn't going to change, seemingly no matter who the candidate is.

In short, we are fucked as a country.

edit: I graded out as a moderate Republican, excuse me.
 
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[video=youtube;Bg98BvqUvCc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc[/video]

Think she'll vote for Herman Cain?
 

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Another idiot Obama supporter

[video=youtube;wYajeEfe3PU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYajeEfe3PU&feature=related[/video]
 

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Yes, we could do better than Obama. A lot better. Problem is there is just noone out there who offers that promise. I graded out as a conservative Republican, so of course I would like one, any Republican, to become president. But I'm not going to choose a president strictly on party lines. I'll just do what I've been doing, and not vote again because shit isn't going to change, seemingly no matter who the candidate is.

In short, we are fucked as a country.

Vote Libertarian so they can get gov't campaign funds.
 

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Thanks, ******. Quit polluting this thread with nonsense and crap YouTube videos.

I don't take orders from little douche bags like you so save that shit. Voting for Obama again?
 

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I don't take orders from little douche bags like you so save that shit. Voting for Obama again?

I don't know yet, the campaigning hasn't even begun. Unlike you, I am actually going to wait until after I see the candidates before making a decision. If there is someone on the ballot who I believe will do a better job than Obama that person will get my vote.
 

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I don't know yet, the campaigning hasn't even begun. Unlike you, I am actually going to wait until after I see the candidates before making a decision. If there is someone on the ballot who I believe will do a better job than Obama that person will get my vote.

It won't be hard. Obama got your ass. Do you feel stupid now?
 
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