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Oakland and Cincinnati are on the verge of completing one of the NFL's biggest trade-deadline deals in decades, with the Raiders acquiring holdout quarterback Carson Palmer from the Bengals in exchange for a two first-round picks, according to sources familiar with the deal.

The first first-round pick is in 2012 and the other is a conditional first-round pick in 2013.

It's a bold move for each team.

Cincinnati is empowering a team it could be competing against for a playoff spot or even in the postseason. The Raiders are turning over another high pick for a quarterback that has been holding out and has struggled in recent seasons when some around the league questioned his arm strength. But ultimately, both sides believed it a gamble worth taking.

The deal became feasible when the Raiders lost starting quarterback Jason Campbell to a broken collarbone and the Bengals watched rookie quarterback Andy Dalton lead Cincinnati to a 4-2 record.

Oakland and Cincinnati spent much of Monday discussing the deal to the point early Monday night when a select few people realized it could happen. People involved in the deal's discussions thought it could happen, but they also recognized how delicate the talks were.

Palmer has been working out in Southern California with former Jets quarterback Ken O'Brien. Palmer also has a strong relationship with Raiders head coach Hue Jackson, with the two men having worked together in Cincinnati from 2004-2006, when Jackson was the Bengals' receivers coach.

Now Palmer will become another former Bengal to make his way west to the Raiders. And Oakland needs him.

With Campbell out, the Raiders turned to Kyle Boller to replace him and also had Terrelle Pryor on the bench.

The trade became possible for the Bengals because Dalton has been impressive throughout training camp and the season's first six games.

Palmer was willing to restructure his contract, which would pay him $6.9 million for the balance of this season, sources said. In Dec. 2005, he signed an extension with the Bengals through 2014 that was valued at $118.75 million that had remained in tact when he informed the Bengals in January that he wanted a trade or would retire.

He has never spoken publicly about his status and his agent, David Dunn, has only confirmed the original report that Palmer had met with Bengals owner Mike Brown to inform him of his feelings. It has been reported recently that Palmer himself had been speaking to Brown to persuade him to make a trade.

Palmer's wife, Shaelynn, is a former swimmer he met at USC and was raised in the San Jose area.

Until now, the biggest recent trade-deadline deals involved receivers. One came in 2008, when the Detroit Lions sent wide receiver Roy Williams and a seventh-round pick to the Dallas Cowboys in exhanged for first-, third- and sixth-round picks in 2009. The same week, Williams agreed to a five-year, $45 million extension that included more than $20 million guaranteed. Williams wound up being released before training camp began last summer.

In 2009, the Browns traded wide receiver Braylon Edwards to the Jets. But rarely have trade deadline deals involved quarterbacks, especially ones in a situation like Palmer's.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider. Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.
 

Theebs

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Omg two ones for Palmer? On an average team?

We might have got two ones and two twos for romo...
 

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Damned interesting if it happens. Oakland might have been finished without Campbell, but if Palmer's in anything close to game shape he'd make them better.
 
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Palmer may make them better, but for how long? Two first round picks is huge for a 32 year old.

I agree with Theebs, I'd take that in a heartbeat for Romo and let Kitna finish this season.
 
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he should be able to play for 5-7 more years. We'll see exactly what is dealt, 2 #1's is extreme, but I give the raiders credit for getting a legit franchise type QB.
 
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Omg two ones for Palmer? On an average team?

We might have got two ones and two twos for romo...

But Jerry'd never swing that deal even if offered. Heck, he turned down a reported 1st from the Bengals for Bennett a year or two aago.
 

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I think the Davis kids want very much to keep the Raiders relevent this year with their dad passing.

Also, I believe they now have no #1, #2, #3, and # 4 in this year's draft.

I like the move, Carson is a vey good NFL QB and the Raiders have the right pieces around him. Also, he went to a pretty good college.
 

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But Jerry'd never swing that deal even if offered. Heck, he turned down a reported 1st from the Bengals for Bennett a year or two aago.

I just don't believe anything he ever lies, I mean says, no I was right, lies.
 

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Good for Carson Palmer, finally getting out of that shithole in Cinci.

That said, Oakland yielding two #1's (if thats true) is a pretty steep price to pay for him unless he returns to the form he showed earlier in his career.
 
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It's based on if the Raiders make the playoffs and win a AFC title game. If that happens it will be a first next year and a first in 2013.

If not it's a second round pick. It's still too much for Palmer. Bengals win this trade as long as they can draft a 1st rounder that isn't a bust.

Just think how poor Jason Campbell feels. lol Everywhere he goes he gets forced out.
 

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Just think how poor Jason Campbell feels. lol Everywhere he goes he gets forced out.

From a hero of sorts who is leading the birth of a resurgence in the Raiders franchise this year to maimed and out of a job for good in a 48 hr window. That's the definition of adding insult to injury.
 

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Good for Carson Palmer, finally getting out of that shithole in Cinci.

That said, Oakland yielding two #1's (if thats true) is a pretty steep price to pay for him unless he returns to the form he showed earlier in his career.

I agree.

The price is a little much for him at this point in his career but the Raiders feel they're in win now mode... Might as well get a QB that can take you there.

I think both sides win in this deal... and obviously so does Palmer.
 
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I just think there's too much uncertainty with free agency and injuries to stay all patient and chill. If you have a chance, I love the go for it mentality. Except when it means ur trading for Roy Williams of course. That just means ur stupid.
 
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