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Brugler report on Hundley. He has him as a 4th rd pick. I've seen some that had him rated as a late first or second round pick.
3. BRETT HUNDLEY | UCLA 6032|226 lbs|4JR Chandler, Ariz. (Chandler HS) 6/15/1993 (age 21) #17
2011: Redshirted GRADE 4th Round
2012: (14/14) 318-478/66.5%/3,740/29/11 160/355/2.2/9
2013: (13/13) 248-371/66.8%/3,071/24/9 160/748/4.7/11
2014: (13/13) 271-392/69.1%/3,155/22/5 159/644/4.1/10
Total: (40/40) 837-1,241/67.4%/9,966/75/25 479/1,747/3.6/30
MEASUREABLES Arm: 32 1/8 | Hand: 10 1/2 | Wingspan: 78 1/4
COMBINE 40-YD: 4.63 | 10-YD: 1.62 | 20-YD: 2.72 | VJ: 36 | BJ: 10’00” | SS: 3.98 | 3C: 6.93
PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only)
BACKGROUND: A four-star quarterback recruit out of high school, Hundley picked up dozens of offers and narrowed his choice to UCLA and Washington, choosing the Bruins and redshirting in 2011. He became the starter in 2012 as a redshirt freshman and had the most productive season of his career, setting new single season UCLA records for completions (318), passing yards (3,740) and total offense (4,095). Hundley scored a career-high 38 total touchdowns (29 passing, nine rushing), earning All-Pac 12 Honorable Mention honors. He started all 13 games as a sophomore, recording 66.8% completions, 3,071 passing yards and 35 total touchdowns (24 passing, 11 rushing), earning All-Pac 12 Honorable Mention honors again in 2013. Hundley again started all 13 games in 2014 and set a personal-best with 69.1% completions, finishing with 3,155 passing yards and 32 total touchdowns (22 passing, 10 rushing), earning Second Team All-Pac 12 honors. With one season of eligibility remaining, he made the decision to leave UCLA for the 2015 NFL Draft and declined an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete with ideal height and a thick lower body…not an easy player to tackle and will deliver hits, running with power – stout frame to brush off contact in the pocket and as a ballcarrier…athletic footwork and flexible body control to move like a much smaller athlete…uses his legs effectively to pick up positive yards or move the pocket with natural instincts as a scrambler and the acceleration to erase pursuit angles…nice job stepping into his throws with easy arm strength to spin a pretty ball to all levels of the field – able to generate unforced velocity…quick set-up, rhythm and delivery motion…comfortable operating from a clean pocket with an even-keeled, calm demeanor…improved understanding of situational football…nice job selling play fakes and works his mannerisms well…durable and plays through pain (dealt with minor ankle and elbow injuries), starting every game of his career (40 career starts)…mature leader for his age with a gutsy demeanor even if it doesn’t appear that way because of his reserved demeanor – voted team captain as a sophomore…wants to be great with the football passion and competitive drive needed for the NFL…career 29-11 record as a starter, becoming the first UCLA quarterback to produce at least nine wins in three straight seasons as a starter…leaves UCLA with the career records for touchdown passes (75), completions (837) and total offense (11,713) – finished second in school history in career passing yards (9,966) and rushing yards by a quarterback (1,747)…football bloodlines: father (Brett Sr.) played running back at Arizona.
WEAKNESSES: Poor pocket awareness and presence, struggling to decipher and recognize pressures…drops his eyes early and allows defenders to disrupt his tempo, struggling to manage the pocket and stare down the gun barrel, especially with interior pressures…too easily rattled and doesn’t play with consistent confidence in the pocket…needs to develop his internal clock, holding the ball too long and allowing the pocket to swallow him up…struggles to reset his feet and eyes once moved from initial spot…doesn’t show much anticipation at this point in his development, usually waiting for his target to come open before delivering…questionable processing speed with gun-shy tendencies, not challenging tight coverages…too methodical at times and doesn’t read blitzes to speed up his process…needs to quicken his eyes and expand his vision…downfield ball placement isn’t a strength with most of his completions coming on throws under 10 yards on screens, quick slants and swing passes…poor ball security with 29 career fumble the last three seasons.
SUMMARY: On the hoof, Hundley is an ideal physical specimen at the position with top-shelf arm strength and the well-built frame to take a beating as a runner, showing the athletic traits to be an effective scrambler. But his mental make-up as a passer is the question mark, most notably his suspect downfield vision and struggles with pressures. Hundley plays like he’s constrained in the pocket, lacking the natural feel and awareness to operate and maneuver through the chaos while keeping his eyes downfield. He needs to continue and develop his decision-making process to speed up his reads and get the ball out quicker, but without better anticipation, he will struggle to find the field at the next level. Hundley was a productive winner at UCLA and the physical abilities are easy to spot, but his highly questionable instincts and football awareness are strong concerns that could keep him from reaching his full potential as a passer – worth the gamble outside the top-100 picks as a developmental project who shouldn’t see the field until year two or three.
3. BRETT HUNDLEY | UCLA 6032|226 lbs|4JR Chandler, Ariz. (Chandler HS) 6/15/1993 (age 21) #17
2011: Redshirted GRADE 4th Round
2012: (14/14) 318-478/66.5%/3,740/29/11 160/355/2.2/9
2013: (13/13) 248-371/66.8%/3,071/24/9 160/748/4.7/11
2014: (13/13) 271-392/69.1%/3,155/22/5 159/644/4.1/10
Total: (40/40) 837-1,241/67.4%/9,966/75/25 479/1,747/3.6/30
MEASUREABLES Arm: 32 1/8 | Hand: 10 1/2 | Wingspan: 78 1/4
COMBINE 40-YD: 4.63 | 10-YD: 1.62 | 20-YD: 2.72 | VJ: 36 | BJ: 10’00” | SS: 3.98 | 3C: 6.93
PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only)
BACKGROUND: A four-star quarterback recruit out of high school, Hundley picked up dozens of offers and narrowed his choice to UCLA and Washington, choosing the Bruins and redshirting in 2011. He became the starter in 2012 as a redshirt freshman and had the most productive season of his career, setting new single season UCLA records for completions (318), passing yards (3,740) and total offense (4,095). Hundley scored a career-high 38 total touchdowns (29 passing, nine rushing), earning All-Pac 12 Honorable Mention honors. He started all 13 games as a sophomore, recording 66.8% completions, 3,071 passing yards and 35 total touchdowns (24 passing, 11 rushing), earning All-Pac 12 Honorable Mention honors again in 2013. Hundley again started all 13 games in 2014 and set a personal-best with 69.1% completions, finishing with 3,155 passing yards and 32 total touchdowns (22 passing, 10 rushing), earning Second Team All-Pac 12 honors. With one season of eligibility remaining, he made the decision to leave UCLA for the 2015 NFL Draft and declined an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete with ideal height and a thick lower body…not an easy player to tackle and will deliver hits, running with power – stout frame to brush off contact in the pocket and as a ballcarrier…athletic footwork and flexible body control to move like a much smaller athlete…uses his legs effectively to pick up positive yards or move the pocket with natural instincts as a scrambler and the acceleration to erase pursuit angles…nice job stepping into his throws with easy arm strength to spin a pretty ball to all levels of the field – able to generate unforced velocity…quick set-up, rhythm and delivery motion…comfortable operating from a clean pocket with an even-keeled, calm demeanor…improved understanding of situational football…nice job selling play fakes and works his mannerisms well…durable and plays through pain (dealt with minor ankle and elbow injuries), starting every game of his career (40 career starts)…mature leader for his age with a gutsy demeanor even if it doesn’t appear that way because of his reserved demeanor – voted team captain as a sophomore…wants to be great with the football passion and competitive drive needed for the NFL…career 29-11 record as a starter, becoming the first UCLA quarterback to produce at least nine wins in three straight seasons as a starter…leaves UCLA with the career records for touchdown passes (75), completions (837) and total offense (11,713) – finished second in school history in career passing yards (9,966) and rushing yards by a quarterback (1,747)…football bloodlines: father (Brett Sr.) played running back at Arizona.
WEAKNESSES: Poor pocket awareness and presence, struggling to decipher and recognize pressures…drops his eyes early and allows defenders to disrupt his tempo, struggling to manage the pocket and stare down the gun barrel, especially with interior pressures…too easily rattled and doesn’t play with consistent confidence in the pocket…needs to develop his internal clock, holding the ball too long and allowing the pocket to swallow him up…struggles to reset his feet and eyes once moved from initial spot…doesn’t show much anticipation at this point in his development, usually waiting for his target to come open before delivering…questionable processing speed with gun-shy tendencies, not challenging tight coverages…too methodical at times and doesn’t read blitzes to speed up his process…needs to quicken his eyes and expand his vision…downfield ball placement isn’t a strength with most of his completions coming on throws under 10 yards on screens, quick slants and swing passes…poor ball security with 29 career fumble the last three seasons.
SUMMARY: On the hoof, Hundley is an ideal physical specimen at the position with top-shelf arm strength and the well-built frame to take a beating as a runner, showing the athletic traits to be an effective scrambler. But his mental make-up as a passer is the question mark, most notably his suspect downfield vision and struggles with pressures. Hundley plays like he’s constrained in the pocket, lacking the natural feel and awareness to operate and maneuver through the chaos while keeping his eyes downfield. He needs to continue and develop his decision-making process to speed up his reads and get the ball out quicker, but without better anticipation, he will struggle to find the field at the next level. Hundley was a productive winner at UCLA and the physical abilities are easy to spot, but his highly questionable instincts and football awareness are strong concerns that could keep him from reaching his full potential as a passer – worth the gamble outside the top-100 picks as a developmental project who shouldn’t see the field until year two or three.
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I assume they check his eyesight. But from what's said in that report, I'd suspect a moderate case of nearsightedness, at least. Knew a kid who was really gifted but couldn't seem to cut it, much like what we read about Hundley here. Then one day his English teacher of all people sent a note home to his mom saying the kid needs his eyes checked, he squints all the time and has trouble copying assignments off the chalkboard. The mom took the kid to the eye doctor and BOOM, kid is severely nearsighted, something like 20/200.
Vision corrected, he was able to throw BBs downfield, had pocket awareness, could process information rapidly - it was night and day.
Vision corrected, he was able to throw BBs downfield, had pocket awareness, could process information rapidly - it was night and day.
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Umm, no. The kid I'm talking about actually stuck with his first love after high school, trains. He's been a RR engineer for nearly 30 years now, and is also a avid biker. Vaughan has perfect eyesight.
Watching Grudens QB Camp featuring this kid, and..... Do not want.
Never been in a huddle? Didn't know what a snap count is for. Doesn't seem to really understand all that Gruden is saying.
Can make all the throws but I honestly don't trust Wade Wilson to coach a young raw player up.
Never been in a huddle? Didn't know what a snap count is for. Doesn't seem to really understand all that Gruden is saying.
Can make all the throws but I honestly don't trust Wade Wilson to coach a young raw player up.
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He kind of fits the mold in what you want to draft when you already have an established, older starter at QB. A lot of the QBs in this draft sound like ideal backups you want to have in case your starter is out for any length of time.
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I remember when I saw him this year for the first time... I thought, "Really? This is the guy so many people rave about?"
Wasn't impressed at all.
Wasn't impressed at all.
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He kind of reminds me of Akili Smith. All the physical tools, but relies too much on athleticism
