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A) I never suggested they were the exact same thing. But if the issue is "People receiving money from the govt. using drugs" then the question is why are we only concerned about the poor? Especially when so far, we've seen they use drugs at a lower rate than the gen pop (probably because they...

IIRC, Most people on welfare receive it for an average of four months. They are people having a tough time, down on their luck, etc. The disabled account for a large percentage of long-time welfare recipients. The image people have of chronic welfare user/abusers sitting around getting their...

LOL ok. Hopefully we follow the "Legislating for Spite" model in the future.

Let's stay on topic. Government research has been shown by conservative estimates to have a 4:1 ROI. So yeah, I support government research. I don't support going after poor people for absolutely no reason, however. Given what's happened in Florida can you offer justification for bills like...

The savings aren't enough to justify this even being an issue. http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2758871/floridas-welfare-drug-tests-cost.html And now Florida is mired in a legal battle with the ACLU, costing the state even more. Texas won't be any different.

Some =/= all We also don't make their funding dependent upon everyone in the company being drug free, etc. I've been a government employee, and am currently working for a government contractor. I use insane amounts of drugs. Never been piss tested once. If I failed noone would give a shit...

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Why don't we test everyone who receives government money then? Students, contractors, government employees....etc. So far where they've done these tests what they find is that welfare recipients use drugs at a lower rate than the general populace. So why are we only testing them? Because it's...

Seattle let Steve Hutchinson walk. They weren't outbid.

There's no blue chip prospects. There's no next AP or CJ or dynamic QB. Might have two tackles go top 5 or w/e. whoopdeedoo

Unfortunately throughout history in all sorts of nations, we haven't seen alot of that sort of willpower from members of the military. If their commanders can convince them that civilian rebellion represents a threat to the country, they'll mostly do whatever they're told.

Or Libya where they have rocks.

LOL, still hilarious. I can see your argument, i just disagree. Oh well.

It is absolutely hilarious that you want to peg me for being unyielding on this and them you turn around and do the exact same thing. Whatever.

Please stop with the obsession with me. I haven't advocated for gun control at all, and your misrepresentation of my position on politics is fucktarded. I know you all love getting my attention because otherwise you aren't exposed to progressives at all, and this would basically become the same...

We weren't bidding against anyone.

out·bid *(out-bd) tr.v. out·bid, out·bid·den (-bdn) or out·bid, out·bid·ding, out·bids To bid higher than: We outbid our rivals at the auction. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. You can speculate why til you're blue in the face from suckin on that aforementioned D.

Its an argument of phrasing. Mid wants to phrase Welkers rejection of NEs offer as New England letting him "walk", as though they didn't even attempt to retain him. Which is what letting him walk means. The term searched for is, the Patriots were "outbid". Iow suck a dick, Alex.

Another bill that will cost more than it saves. The only people who win are the company that is awarded the testing contact (see: corruption in Florida) and i guess self righteous internet schmucks

LOL ******s.