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You're talking about people that do not have insurance. If you want I can go quote by quote and hold your hand through the logic.

Again, it's American politics where most everything can be interpreted as fraud. Bank regulations, bailouts, subsidies, no bid contracts, wars, immigration statutes, etc. If you want to take extra umbrage for this particular double speak then go ahead. And exactly how is the statute written...

Again the IRS administers the 'penalty' and it is outlined in the tax code. You can call it a chicken but if it walks, talks, and acts like a duck..... Also characterizing arguments as 'hail mary' or whatever does not mitigate that they were made or even make an argument. It's a straight up...

Are you serious? What does not being able to rise above part time employment have to do with the unemployment rate? gmfb While it is fun to paint all of those without insurance as transient losers the reality is not that convenient for you to discount especially with the economic situation of...

So summer what do you attribute the unemployment over the last 6 years? They all stupid and lazy too?

We just need to get theo here so you can really let the tears flow. Big hugs. I must say I liked your generalization of all of those that lack insurance.

Didn't you wait tables for years?

Especially considering what increase in demand does to a market. The AMA's central bitch is about how there aren't going to be enough of them to deal with the increase in patients. Supply remains static and demand goes up: what happens to price?

SCOTUS over and over again has stated that they look to see what something does rather than what it is called. The penalty is to be collected under tax code by the IRS. They didn't want to call it a tax because of how political rhetoric in this country works but they implemented it just like...

Most of the framers thought that. That's why they initially had the state legislatures appoint senators and put in the electoral college. Most people are stupid and lazy and while that reality got better for most of US history it seems it's going in the opposite direction.

As long as the two party system remains in place with party affiliation on ballots I will have zero faith in the US system. The single member district winner take all representative systems blows ass. People that are into the notion of federalism do not seem to grasp the notion of divide and...

Herbert Hoover, Rutherford Hayes, Grover Cleveland, Jimmy Carter, Andrew Jackson, George Bush Jr., and Warren Harding were all appreciably worse than Obama. Genocide, economic freefalls, corruption, demonstrably counterproductive policiymaking etc are all there. Obama is just an ineffectual...

If you look at the 'Where Do you Get Your News From' thread it should be indicative of how I gather news. I am not going to prove your argument for you as I have zero basis for this socialist drivel. I am just asking for some evidence of over-regulation or nationalization of industries. OTOH...

I didn't vote for him last time and I am not going to vote for him this time. If you are going to call someone something i would think you could at least give anecdotes of regulations and industries.

Thats still Texas.

What regulations? The treasury department has gutted financial reform which was gutted by clinton. Glass-Steagall was not a bad thing. You can construe anyone as socialist: do you support anti-trust laws? How about the FDA? Those are technically socialist policies. We live in a mixed...

I've always liked how Leviticus and Deuteronomy have been choose your own adventure.

Well for a socialist his treasury department does not act it and for all the expansion of medicare involved in obamacare its pretty much a guarantee for new customers for the health care industry as a whole with the mandate. Might as well mandate americans have to buy toaster ovens from GE...

Yeah his Treasury Department has just been a beacon of socialist ideals.... :confused You can quibble about whether or not the GM/Chrysler bailouts was really about the UAW but exactly what have been the socialist policies? All I can say is I miss Bill Buckley. Oh noes the Red Scare!!! And...

I am just following empirical proof. Money talks more now than ever in the last 100 years. Who needs grass roots anymore when enough cash gets you access to every American TV and CPU. I guess there should in theory be a market saturation point but i don't see them hitting in in a country of...