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Murry is faster, but not Harris according to NFL.com. Harris is 4.53 and Crayton 4.51. That is the same number listed as their combine numers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0kJbMzwaE&feature=player_embedded

That's nice. But it still has nothing to do with the two main points of contention in this thread. 1. Ball was giving up 1st down completions at a terrible rate. 2. You saying a healthy Newman wouldn't have done any better than Ball.

Eh, no point in getting offended by a guy that would struggle to spell I.Q.

lol Ohhhhhh, my laughing muscles hurt.

That's strange.... You seem to have forgotten to mention this one, Ruprecht. OOOOKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA!

An exaggeration, Ruprecht. To further illustrate the stupidity of your original statement. If you'd stop banging your pots for a minute, you might understand that.

The original point was he was giving up too many 3rd down coversions. And that he did NOT have a good game. You decided to bypass that and ask the retarded question of "Well, how many receptions and yards did he give up?" When answered it didn't matter what the avg was, he was GIVING UP FIRST...

Why is CR a whining bitch? He didn't say Goodell should be notified, only that he probably heard of it. And I agree. It was stupid of Hall to say these things in the media. What good does it do? Make him sound like a tough guy? Why bring attention to yourself if your intention is to hurt...

You be the judge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3wuSO59OdM&feature=player_detailpage

lol

Is that like retard strength?

He was also playing with the same injury he was in the 2nd half, but without the painkillers. I'll cut him some slack for that in hindsight.

Wow. That was really stupid of Hall to say. Honestly, I'd like my players to be thinking like this, with legal hits of course, but don't make your intentions known to everybody and their dog. Especially the refs calling the game and the tool that doles out the fines/suspensions.

I'm starting to think you are retarded. First, when people start with the mongoloid spelling as a retort, they just. have. nothing. Second, the original statement was that Alan Ball played a good game. That was the point of contention. People disagreed, saying he was giving up 1st down...

Who gives a shit? If it's 3rd and 4 and he gives up 5 yards, that's a hell of a lot worse than if it's 3rd and 20 and he gives up 19 yards. The point is, he was giving up first downs on third down.

lol Yeah. That guy was a real douchebag.

Sucks at safety, doesn't suck quite as much at corner.

Please. Look around the league. Kickers around the league are kicking off just fine. Beuhler's KO's are not as special as they were billed. He's only had a couple go out the endzone. In the preseason, Bailey's KO's were just fine. Just last week, Beuhler had a terrible KO that was returned...

More than likely not. I sure won't shed any tears over his release. But it still doesn't change the fact that he had more utility on this team then Beuhler does.