Why does this continue to happen?

Sheik · Dec 12, 2011

It doesn't matter who the players are. It doesn't matter who the coaches are. It doesn't matter which officiating crew is calling the game.

This shit always happens.

Even going back to the Campo years. We were shitty, no doubt, but we played in a lot of close games that usually ended with a defensive collapse late.

What's with this team being prone to late game collapse? Historically, it's been the defense, but even the special teams is getting into the fold these days. We all know Romo has had his moments, but mainly it's been the defense in recent years.

Is it really Jerry Jones? I know he's a dipshit, but can he really have that effect on every group of players and coaches that he employs? He's the only element that has been constant the last 15 or so years.

I'm losing my mind over this team.

Everlastingxxx · Dec 12, 2011

I am one of those Anti-Jerry fans. At the end of the day, he created the product on the field and sidelines. Bradie James said the players feel a sense of entitlement from being a Dallas Cowboy. How can they feel that way when it’s been over 15 years of failure? Easy, Jerry Jones gives that to them. Like you said...different coaches, different players, different schemes, differents refs, different stadiums...whatever else, same results. One true constant...

UVAwahoos · Dec 12, 2011

It's the coaching. Mediocre at best since 2000. Parcells brought in a great staff and changed the culture here, but it has all gone to shit now once again. Garrett is in way over his head and the positional coaches are garbage. We had some amazing positional coaches for the super bowl runs. Now it's almost like anyone is allowed to be hired to fill in those positions. That makes a huge difference. I'd like to see Gruden or Fisher hired and given autonomy to bring in their own staff. It would help for the development of each player at their individual position. I am pretty sure Romo has not had a decent QB coach since 2006. That's not a good thing.

Sheik · Dec 12, 2011

I hate that man with my whole hating ability.

Sheik · Dec 12, 2011

I would really like to know if Stephen is planning on handling the team the same way as his daddy.

Not speculation, but from the horses mouth. I'd like to know if I'm wasting my time hoping that change is just around the corner.

UVAwahoos · Dec 12, 2011

Stephen was a huge Garrett advocate. They missed bigtime on this guy. He hasn't cleaned anything up here. The culture of blowing games and being sloppy in the process continues to remain. Stephen was also largely in charge of the Roy E. Williams trade which turned out to be one of the worst ever in the entire league. They hold onto players like Newman for too long, and cut players like Crayton and Gurode too soon without an adequate replacement.

There doesn't seem to be a real plan with the management here. They seem to just plug up holes as they go. Defense sucks? Ok lets hire Wade as HC since he's a great DC. That makes total sense.

There's no foresight or player development. We've had issues in the secondary for a few years now. Why does it need to get to the point of just absolute failure and embarrassment before the management realizes that they have to address things at each position?

Sheik · Dec 12, 2011

UVAwahoos said:
Stephen was a huge Garrett advocate. They missed bigtime on this guy. He hasn't cleaned anything up here. The culture of blowing games and being sloppy in the process continues to remain. Stephen was also largely in charge of the Roy E. Williams trade which turned out to be one of the worst ever in the entire league. They hold onto players like Newman for too long, and cut players like Crayton and Gurode too soon without an adequate replacement.

There doesn't seem to be a real plan with the management here. They seem to just plug up holes as they go. Defense sucks? Ok lets hire Wade as HC since he's a great DC. That makes total sense.

There's no foresight or player development. We've had issues in the secondary for a few years now. Why does it need to get to the point of just absolute failure and embarrassment before the management realizes that they have to address things at each position?

How old will Witten/Ware/Romo/Austin be in 3 years when there's a new offense brought in?

It's getting very close to being over with this group. Very sad.

I can't wait for the next round of 2nd round reaches and ex-baseball playing projects at QB.

RoyTheHammer · Dec 12, 2011

Blaming these types of losses on Jerry is silly. The end.

RoyTheHammer · Dec 12, 2011

UVAwahoos said:
There's no foresight or player development. We've had issues in the secondary for a few years now. Why does it need to get to the point of just absolute failure and embarrassment before the management realizes that they have to address things at each position?

Well its still not at that point i guess because they won't be addressing it for several years now. Unless by "addressing it" you mean resigning all the players who suck that we have now to long term extensions.

Sheik · Dec 12, 2011

RoyTheHammer said:
Blaming these types of losses on Jerry is silly. The end.

It's not these types of losses, it's the last 15 years. Why are the same things happening with different coaches and different players?

I think it's got everything to do with Jerry Jones. He's the only piece that hasn't been changed through all this crap.

If it's not him, what is it?

Sheik · Dec 12, 2011

The way the team comes up small, more than just the losses.

Why is that what this team is known for the last 15 years?

It hasn't gotten even a little bit better since last years disappointment. The team still finds a way to accomplish failure.

RoyTheHammer · Dec 12, 2011

Sheik said:
It's not these types of losses, it's the last 15 years. Why are the same things happening with different coaches and different players?

I think it's got everything to do with Jerry Jones. He's the only piece that hasn't been changed through all this crap.

If it's not him, what is it?

I think its a bit too simplistic to point at Jerry and say, "Its your fault because you're the constant here."

Doesn't really grasp the full scope of the problems this franchise has had, although i agree a large percentage of it could be attributed to him.

We've been headed back in the right direction though in recent years with a couple postseason appearances. Just have to get over the hump and make sure we don't go backwards. If we don't get into the postseason this year, i'll be very disappointed.. but anxious to see what Garrett and Ryan can do with a full offseason.

VA Cowboy · Dec 12, 2011

RoyTheHammer said:
I think its a bit too simplistic to point at Jerry and say, "Its your fault because you're the constant here."

Doesn't really grasp the full scope of the problems this franchise has had, although i agree a large percentage of it could be attributed to him.

We've been headed back in the right direction though in recent years with a couple postseason appearances. Just have to get over the hump and make sure we don't go backwards. If we don't get into the postseason this year, i'll be very disappointed.. but anxious to see what Garrett and Ryan can do with a full offseason.

When he's hired guys like Switzer, Gailey, Campo, Wade and Garrett more for his comfort level rather than for their coaching ability, then yeah, it's on Jerry. When he has continued to be the GM since the day Jimmy left, then yeah it's on Jerry.

Midswat · Dec 12, 2011

UVAwahoos said:
It's the coaching. Mediocre at best since 2000. Parcells brought in a great staff and changed the culture here, but it has all gone to shit now once again.

These same stupid losses occured repeatedly under Parcells watch as well.

superpunk · Dec 12, 2011

It's gotta be some sort of curse.

Theebs · Dec 12, 2011

superpunk said:
It's gotta be some sort of curse.

The ticket here locally always claims jerry sold his soul to the devil for that last superbowl win in 95 and he will never win again.

i would laugh if i almost didnt believe it and wasnt still numb from watching the giants beat us yet again.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Dec 12, 2011

Sheik said:
It's not these types of losses, it's the last 15 years. Why are the same things happening with different coaches and different players?

I think it's got everything to do with Jerry Jones. He's the only piece that hasn't been changed through all this crap.

If it's not him, what is it?

I'm not sure how having a 12 point lead with less than 5 minutes left, and then a certain group of defensive players (secondary) decide to celebrate and go into cruise mode because they think the game is in the bag, and thus no reason to risk getting themselves hurt, can all this be attributed to Jerry. I agree with RTH in that it's too simplistic in blaming Jerry.

cmd34 · Dec 12, 2011

Thinking Jerry is not a huge part of the problem is beyond "silly". He has created this environment. Be a star, create buzz, and don't worry there's no real accountability. Unless of course you're a third-string RB. In that case, we will cut you tho show you who's boss. God help you if you have a big salary coming next season because we will get rid of you despite not having a capable replacement.

History, science, and common sense prove that if things have not worked for a long period of time and there is only 1 constant, that constant is your problem.

Why does this continue to happen?

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