Kiper & McShay Big Boards 1/3

* - underclassman
McShay

1. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
2. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M
3. Chance Warmack G Alabama
4. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M
5. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
6. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
7. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
8. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.
9. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
10. Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
11. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
12. Dion Jordan DE Oregon
13. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan
14. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina
15. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
16. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
17. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
18. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
19. Ezekiel Ansah* DE BYU
20. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
21. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
22. Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi St.
23. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
24. Shariff Floyd* DT Florida
25. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee
26. Corey Lemonier* DE Auburn
27. Kawann Short DT Purdue
28. Keenan Allen* WR California
29. Zach Ertz* TE Stanford
30. Cordarelle Patterson* WR Tennessee
31. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
32. Matt Barkley QB USC

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Kiper

1. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
2. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
3. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
4. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M
5. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M
6. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
7. Chance Warmack G Alabama
8. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.
9. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
10. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
11. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina
12. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
13. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan
14. Cordarelle Patterson* WR Tennessee
15. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
16. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
17. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
18. Ezekiel Ansah* DE BYU
19. Dion Jordan DE Oregon
20. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
21. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
22. Mike Glennon QB North Carolina St.
23. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
24. Shariff Floyd* DT Florida
25. Alex Okafor DE Texas

Give me Ansah or JOrdan at our spot.

I'm falling in like with Shariff Floyd. Talented, disruptive, 6'2" 300, and still growing into his body. Only 20 years old on draft day, and has experience playing inside and at DE.

Hmmmmm.....

Could be another Geno Atkins.

Would love Warmack, but I think he will go well before we pick. Also like the T from Central Michigan.

Missouri's Sheldon Richardson looks like an ideal 3-4 DE, and could play DT in a 4-3.

Midswat said:

I'm falling in like with Shariff Floyd. Talented, disruptive, 6'2" 300, and still growing into his body. Only 20 years old on draft day, and has experience playing inside and at DE.

Hmmmmm.....

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Yeah he looks like a good one too.

I think a key with drafting DT's is you have to find guys who really love football, so you have to do your due dilligence. Lets face it... if youre a 300lb person, some of it is genetics, but some of it is also laziness. You don't want to draft a guy who has a hint of lazy in him, and pay him all that money.

That's my theory on why so many DT's wash out.

Midswat said:

I'm falling in like with Shariff Floyd. Talented, disruptive, 6'2" 300, and still growing into his body. Only 20 years old on draft day, and has experience playing inside and at DE.

Hmmmmm.....

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I didn't see it, but someone was telling me that Broaddus was talking up Floyd recently.

Dallas doesn't seem interested in the mammoth two gapping NTs, so another undersized guy in Floyd might make sense.

Only thing I saw BB say about Floyd was someone asked who he liked better, him or the UGA kid Jenkins. BB said Floyd. That prompted me to look into the Floyd.

BB is kind of a hard follow because while he answers a lot of questions, a lot of people ask him the same shit worded differently and he always responds. Plus, I'm not real sure how much of a clue he really has. Ive kinda taken to skipping over him most of the time.

Midswat said:

Only thing I saw BB say about Floyd was someone asked who he liked better, him or the UGA kid Jenkins. BB said Floyd. That prompted me to look into the Floyd.

BB is kind of a hard follow because while he answers a lot of questions, a lot of people ask him the same shit worded differently and he always responds. Plus, I'm not real sure how much of a clue he really has. Ive kinda taken to skipping over him most of the time.

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I want to follow him through the draft process and see how much of what he says rings true. Curious how much info he is privy to now that he works within the organization again.

Yea broaddus went from a great little secret to a pain in the ass.

I seriously hate every question he gets its always stupid.

Hey should we trade up for Vaccaro and then move free to guard and can matt Johnson play this week?

Move to 43...draft a DE round 1..

Simple

MarionBarberThe4th said:

Yea broaddus went from a great little secret to a pain in the ass.

I seriously hate every question he gets its always stupid.

Hey should we trade up for Vaccaro and then move free to guard and can matt Johnson play this week?

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lol

Yeah, he answered some variation of "Can ~insert IR'd player~ come back this week?" at least three times a day for the past month.

Or a DT

junk said:

I want to follow him through the draft process and see how much of what he says rings true. Curious how much info he is privy to now that he works within the organization again.

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That's actually a great idea that we should do for a number of people.

Mosley, for one. Each of these guys should get their own thread so we can track what they say for future reference.

I remember Mosley was all "Dallas aint takin Tyron Smith!" pre 2011. Got pissed when I reminded him of that last year. Sent me some sassy DM's on Twitter. "I talk to more people than anyone!"

lol

GloryDaysRBack said:

Move to 43...draft a DE round 1..

Simple

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Something about this seems so much easier. Any way you go with it your front looks ok, even if you let spencer walk

Yup. Shits all fucked up in a 34...

If you go 4-3, do you keep Ryan?

Midswat said:

If you go 4-3, do you keep Ryan?

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I wouldnt keep Ryan for any type of scheme

Midswat said:

If you go 4-3, do you keep Ryan?

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Yea, unless it was in someway possible to get Lovie Smith. Which it isn't.

I know it shouldn't be used as an excuse, but I don't know how anyone can fairly judge Rob Ryan based on the amount of injuries we had to our defense this past season. Give him another year.