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    5 Comparisons: Cowboys' Jason Garrett vs Super Bowl head coaches
    By: Donrey Mariñas


    Jason Garrett and his staff have missed the playoffs for the fifth time in his seven seasons as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. There was plenty of speculation by media and fans alike 2017’s failure could be it for the Princeton alumnus. Ultimately the Cowboys front office elected to stand by Garrett for at least one more year, citing the importance of continuity.

    At what point does continuity turn into redundancy? When will enough be enough, and at what point does Jerry Jones need to cut his losses?

    Here’s a look at how the 2016 NFL Coach of the Year stacks up against the 14 coaches who have won their first Super Bowl since after the salary cap was implemented, analyzing age, tenure, resume, roster building and inherited talent.

    Age
    Average age of first championship: 50.5
    Garrett: 51


    Garrett is above the average. While not necessarily a detriment, it should be taken into consideration only six of the 14 are older than Garrett is now.

    Barry Switzer (DAL)
    Dick Vermeil (STL)
    Tom Coughlin (NYG)
    Pete Carroll (SEA)
    Gary Kubiak (DEN)


    Average time for coach to win championship from hire: 4 seasons
    Garrett total HC time with Dallas: 7 seasons


    3 of the 14 first-time winners of Super Bowls were hired prior to the cap era. Of those hired since, five years is the longest amount of time it took any of them to win. The slow pokes were Tony Dungy (IND), Mike McCarthy (GB) and John Harbaugh (BAL).

    The average was four years, with Jon Gruden (TAM) and Kubiak winning it all in their first year at the helm. Looking at this, the data suggests that if Garrett hasn’t figure it out by now, his eighth season, he never will.


    Average experience prior to hire: 12.76 seasons
    Garrett: 6


    At the time Garrett was promoted from offensive coordinator, he had six years of NFL coaching experience; two with the Miami Dolphins as QB coach before coming to Dallas.

    Only Mike Tomlin (PIT) had as little NFL experience as Garrett and has ended up taking home a title.

    Only one coach had less experience when he was hired, Dallas’ Switzer, who was hired with absolutely no NFL locations on his resume.


    Average selections between hire and championship: 24.48
    draft picks made by Cowboys under Garrett: 57


    Most of the time when a new head coach is named it is to turn a team around, and the best way to do that is to draft well. Drafting well should establish a foundation and culture for the team that is in line with the Head Coach’s vision for success.

    This April’s draft will mark the eighth time that Garrett has sat in the HC’s seat in the Cowboys draft day war room. In his tenure he has selected more than double the average amount it took for the winning coaches to form a Championship squad.

    Garrett has made more selections than any of the 14 coaches at the time of their championship win, 10 more picks than the McCarthy, who made 47 before winning his first title. When it came to the average selection per year, the average championship coach made 7.96 selections each year while the former Cowboys QB made an average of 8.14.


    Average number of Pro-Bowl players when hired: 3.6
    Average number of Pro-Bowl players on Championship teams: 5.5
    Pro-Bowl players on roster when Garrett was hired: 6


    Witten, Matt McBriar, DeMarcus Ware, Andre Gurode, Miles Austin, and Jay Ratliff were all named to the 2010 Pro-Bowl the year Dallas finished 6-10 and fired HC Wade Phillips mid-way through the season. The following January, Garrett was officially promoted to full-time coach.

    Since his elevation, Garrett has fielded just two teams which produced as many or more Pro-Bowl players than when he was first hired. In 2014 Dallas had eight Pro Bowlers and in 2016 had six. Only Switzer and the 95 Dallas Cowboys had more Pro-Bwolers with 10 and are the only team in the study that has won a Super Bowl with double-digit Pro-Bowl selections.

    Only Kubiak and Switzer inherited more Pro-Bowlers than Garrett, while Gruden and Brian Billick both had six in their first years as HC.

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    I think its understated how psychotic Romo worked during and after practice during the first few years in Dallas. I remember David Lee talking about how Romo wore him out staying late after practice. Regardless, Romo has always been high on Lee. Hoping the pokes at least take a look.


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    sure,

    lets get david lee, bruce lee, stan lee, angelina jo lee,,, bring em all

    dak's gonna need all the help he can get. his brain is probably still rattling around in his head after the beating he took this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by icup View Post
    sure,

    lets get david lee, bruce lee, stan lee, angelina jo lee,,, bring em all

    dak's gonna need all the help he can get. his brain is probably still rattling around in his head after the beating he took this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday View Post
    you need to add a "Lulz" button if for no other reason than icup's posts

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    David Lee, might be the most overrated coach in Cowboy forum history.

    Thought of like some sort of football God, yet never stays in one place very long and really doesn't have any proven track record of developing anyone.

    But hey, Romo said he did some good things so Zoners be like, he great
    This needs to be the final season of Garrett & his staff. The greatest coaches on the planet should be candidates to lead the best org in sports. The days of teams blowing the Cowboys’ doors off in halftime adjustments needs to end. Time for change, new direction and a new voice
    — Ben Rogers (@BenRogers) November 20, 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbair1967 View Post
    David Lee, might be the most overrated coach in Cowboy forum history.

    Thought of like some sort of football God, yet never stays in one place very long and really doesn't have any proven track record of developing anyone.

    But hey, Romo said he did some good things so Zoners be like, he great
    Well, I confess I fell for it too. I was intrigued by how much Romo improved his throwing but maybe that was all Romo

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    Quote Originally Posted by yimyammer View Post
    Well, I confess I fell for it too. I was intrigued by how much Romo improved his throwing but maybe that was all Romo
    I'm sure he helped otherwise Romo wouldn't have said so, I just find it comical that people think he's the sole reason Romo turned out ok.

    If it was true Lee would have this extraordinary list of great QB's under him and almost ASSUREDLY wouldn't have had nearly 20 different coaching stops. He's had 7 different jobs just since leaving Dallas after the 2006 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbair1967 View Post
    I'm sure he helped otherwise Romo wouldn't have said so, I just find it comical that people think he's the sole reason Romo turned out ok.

    If it was true Lee would have this extraordinary list of great QB's under him and almost ASSUREDLY wouldn't have had nearly 20 different coaching stops. He's had 7 different jobs just since leaving Dallas after the 2006 season.
    Fair point. Personally, I didn't think it was all on Lee, I lean more toward Romo if the shit I read is true about dragging his friends outside until midnight to throw balls, drilling balls into the couch constantly, throwing at street lights, etc, etc. The thing I remember most about Lee being in Dallas is his semi complaining that Romo wore him out getting him to stay long after practice.

    I wish I had saved a copy of the articles I read, I don't think I'm dreaming this stuff up

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    Todd Archer
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    Running backs coach Gary Brown is expected to return to the Cowboys, according to sources. He had interest from the Oakland Raiders and Houston Texans. Brown has been with the Cowboys since 2013 and helped DeMarco Murray and Ezekiel Elliott to earn Pro Bowl and All-Pro honors in 2013-14 and 2016. He also oversaw Daren McFadden's 1,089-yard season in 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yimyammer View Post
    Fair point. Personally, I didn't think it was all on Lee, I lean more toward Romo if the shit I read is true about dragging his friends outside until midnight to throw balls, drilling balls into the couch constantly, throwing at street lights, etc, etc. The thing I remember most about Lee being in Dallas is his semi complaining that Romo wore him out getting him to stay long after practice.

    I wish I had saved a copy of the articles I read, I don't think I'm dreaming this stuff up
    I don't dispute Romo had good things to say about Lee.

    My thing is he is not some "QB Whisperer" or offensive genius like some make him out to be. He's a journeyman type coach that has bounced all over.

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    Sanjay Lal, who was the wide receivers coach with the Indianapolis Colts in 2017, is interviewing with the Cowboys, according to multiple sources. The Cowboys have also met with Miles Austin about the opening. Lal has also worked with Oakland, Buffalo and the New York Jets.
    Todd Archer, ESPN Staff Writer

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbair1967 View Post
    I don't dispute Romo had good things to say about Lee.

    My thing is he is not some "QB Whisperer" or offensive genius like some make him out to be. He's a journeyman type coach that has bounced all over.
    so who do you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbair1967 View Post
    Ah hell nah, ain't that easy bro, you can't go steppin' out and expect to be let right back in the front door!

    I think he should have to do an American Idol like competition with Felix Jones, Darren McFadden, Julius Jones, Troy Hambrick & Derrick Lassic with the winner getting the job

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