Blowout loss proves Cowboys coach Jason Garrett has failed on so many levels

MrB · Nov 26, 2017

theoneandonly said:
I been saying all along Art Briles and one of the local shows or journalists agreed. He is right up Jerry's alley: A drinking buddy who will do anything for a buck, and give Jerry credit if they miraculously win.

Even with all the controversy at Baylor that took place under his watch? I’m not sure that even Jerry would want to put up with that PR shit storm.

There is one former college coach that I think Jerry would seriously consider. Bob Stoops. First, he’s available. Second, Jerry would have the option to keep any of his current staff. Then, their friends. I personally think it would be a horrible idea but it seems like a total Jerry move.

Also quick question for you guys, why hasn’t Urban Meyer ever been given a shot in the NFL?

yimyammer · Nov 26, 2017

MrB said:
There is one former college coach that I think Jerry would seriously consider. Bob Stoops. First, he’s available. Second, Jerry would have the option to keep any of his current staff. Then, their friends. I personally think it would be a horrible idea but it seems like a total Jerry move.

right up jeri's alley and if brought another mother fucker from OU off the damn couch then that would have to prove that jeri jones really hates Cowboy fans

ThoughtExperiment · Nov 26, 2017

Don't think Bob would take orders from Jerry. Bob has too much money and too much pride for that.

Dustdevil · Nov 26, 2017

MrB said:
There is one former college coach that I think Jerry would seriously consider. Bob Stoops. First, he’s available. Second, Jerry would have the option to keep any of his current staff. Then, their friends. I personally think it would be a horrible idea but it seems like a total Jerry move.

He could bring Mike Stoops in with him to run the Defense.

That would be just.....freakin.......perfect.

yimyammer · Nov 26, 2017

ThoughtExperiment said:
Don't think Bob would take orders from Jerry. Bob has too much money and too much pride for that.

well, that'll rule him out as thats priority 1

Scot · Nov 27, 2017

ThoughtExperiment · Nov 27, 2017

LAZARUS_LOGAN said:
They say that a hummingbird can beat its wings 10-15 times per SECOND. I bett you Garrett can clap much faster than that.

dbair1967 · Nov 27, 2017

LAZARUS_LOGAN said:
They say that a hummingbird can beat its wings 10-15 times per SECOND. I bett you Garrett can clap much faster than that.

Maybe, but if they get in a fight my money is on the hummingbird.

dbair1967 · Nov 27, 2017

MrB said:
Even with all the controversy at Baylor that took place under his watch? I’m not sure that even Jerry would want to put up with that PR shit storm.

There is one former college coach that I think Jerry would seriously consider. Bob Stoops. First, he’s available. Second, Jerry would have the option to keep any of his current staff. Then, their friends. I personally think it would be a horrible idea but it seems like a total Jerry move.

I wondered about that myself. The icing on the cake there might be if Stoops and Switzer are close. Despite being fired, I think the Switz still loves him some Jerruh and if drunken Jones' comes calling on Stoops about being HC and Switz is also in Stoops' ear, might have a chance there.

Also quick question for you guys, why hasn’t Urban Meyer ever been given a shot in the NFL?

I had heard a few times that Meyer was intrigued about coaching in the NFL, but IIRC he has some health issues (heart I believe) and he might not stand the rigor of the 12-18 hour NFL day.

ThoughtExperiment · Nov 27, 2017

Not that I know anything, but I follow OU and I don't think he wants to coach anymore. IMO he was tired of the day to day grind even his last few years at OU.

Sudden thought: If you really want the next McVay, you know who that could be in a year or two? The current coach at OU. Extremely smart and creative. Of course I always wonder why any of these college coaches would want to go pro, unless they just hate recruiting.

MrB · Nov 27, 2017

ThoughtExperiment said:
Not that I know anything, but I follow OU and I don't think he wants to coach anymore. IMO he was tired of the day to day grind even his last few years at OU.

Sudden thought: If you really want the next McVay, you know who that could be in a year or two? The current coach at OU. Extremely smart and creative. Of course I always wonder why any of these college coaches would want to go pro, unless they just hate recruiting.

If I was looking for the next McVay I would look right at John DeFilippo in Philly. Was the OC in Cleveland when McCown has having a good year and for the last two years has been the QB coach in Philly. Obviously he’s done a great job with Wentz.

ThoughtExperiment · Nov 27, 2017

Sounds good. Go anyone.

English Cowboy · Nov 27, 2017

ThoughtExperiment said:
Sounds good. Go anyone.

We are the ABC club (Anyone But Clapper).

dbair1967 · Nov 27, 2017

If the rumblings about Jon Gruden possibly returning to coaching are true, our best chance to land him might only come to fruition if the Redskins fire his brother (cant see Jon wanting to coach in the same division with his brother twice a year)

of course if we were to somehow land Gruden (which would be a massive improvement over Clapper and perhaps a God-send to Prescott's career) the downside might be Gruden would want to keep Rod Marinelli in place as DC (was on his Tampa staff and reportedly likes him a lot). Unless maybe Marinelli retires.

Another upside to potentially hiring Gruden is he might bring his bro (Jay) to be OC and bring back Bill Callahan as OL coach.

MrB · Nov 29, 2017

"Jerry Jones is saying Jason Garrett is on the hot seat ... just not in those exact words" via @SportsDayDFW Dallas Cowboys: Jerry Jones is saying Jason Garrett is on the hot seat ... just not in those exact words | SportsDay

yimyammer · Nov 29, 2017

MrB said:
"Jerry Jones is saying Jason Garrett is on the hot seat ... just not in those exact words" via @SportsDayDFW Dallas Cowboys: Jerry Jones is saying Jason Garrett is on the hot seat ... just not in those exact words | SportsDay

here's where it all began to fall apart:

Jones responded by offering a raise but removing Johnson’s control of players, coaches and trainers.

ThoughtExperiment · Nov 29, 2017

dbair1967 said:
If the rumblings about Jon Gruden possibly returning to coaching are true, our best chance to land him might only come to fruition if the Redskins fire his brother (cant see Jon wanting to coach in the same division with his brother twice a year)

of course if we were to somehow land Gruden (which would be a massive improvement over Clapper and perhaps a God-send to Prescott's career) the downside might be Gruden would want to keep Rod Marinelli in place as DC (was on his Tampa staff and reportedly likes him a lot). Unless maybe Marinelli retires.

Another upside to potentially hiring Gruden is he might bring his bro (Jay) to be OC and bring back Bill Callahan as OL coach.

That idea is gold. Pure gold. I personally doubt Jay gets fired this year -- I think he's done a pretty decent job, honestly -- but I don't think there's any way Garrett will either no matter how bad we finish. But next year? Yeah.

Love the idea of bringing back Callahan, too. The talk always was that he was Jerry's guy from the start. Red was the one Callahan came to hate (smart man) and wanted away from ASAP.

MrB · Nov 29, 2017

ThoughtExperiment said:
That idea is gold. Pure gold. I personally doubt Jay gets fired this year -- I think he's done a pretty decent job, honestly -- but I don't think there's any way Garrett will either no matter how bad we finish. But next year? Yeah.

Love the idea of bringing back Callahan, too. The talk always was that he was Jerry's guy from the start. Red was the one Callahan came to hate (smart man) and wanted away from ASAP.

Wouldn’t shock me if he brought Callahan back as the HC.

Dodger12 · Nov 29, 2017

dbair1967 said:
If the rumblings about Jon Gruden possibly returning to coaching are true, our best chance to land him might only come to fruition if the Redskins fire his brother (cant see Jon wanting to coach in the same division with his brother twice a year)

of course if we were to somehow land Gruden (which would be a massive improvement over Clapper and perhaps a God-send to Prescott's career) the downside might be Gruden would want to keep Rod Marinelli in place as DC (was on his Tampa staff and reportedly likes him a lot). Unless maybe Marinelli retires.

Another upside to potentially hiring Gruden is he might bring his bro (Jay) to be OC and bring back Bill Callahan as OL coach.

Those are a lot of "if's". Gruden't been out of the game for a while so I wonder if he'd be a good coaching fit but anything would be better than the Red Dolt. I also don't think Callahan would want to come back. Jerry and Jason did him dirty here with the play calling and I also recall we may have kept him under contract when he wanted to leave. We did the same thing with Sporano as well.

Dodger12 · Nov 29, 2017

yimyammer said:
here's where it all began to fall apart:

No self serving respectable coach would give up control of players, coaches and/or trainers (to a lesser extent). Jerry knew Jimmy would never go for it but he also knew Campo, Wade and Jason would. Probably Gailey as well.

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