Should we draft a franchise QB in 2018 if we get the chance?

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

Let me preface this with, I am a Dak fan. I dont put todays loss on him, though he was putrid in Denver. I do think he is good enough to win with if everything goes right (it never will as long as Jerry is breathing). My opinion is that he is a top 15 types QB, better than a bus driver but wont ever be elite. I am of the opinion that if a consensus franchise QB falls to us in the spring they should grab him round one. Please dont bother telling me about all the other holes, I actually figured that out all ready. Franchise QBs are probably the hardest position in sports to fill and I am beginning to think we aren't necessarily as set as I thought going forward.

Doomsday · Oct 1, 2017

Get back to me on this somewhere around week 14. I'll know more then if we have a QB problem that justifies a 1st round pick for a new one.

MrB · Oct 1, 2017

If we are in position to draft a franchise QB there's a good chance we are also in position to draft an elite DE or elite LB. do you pass on them to take a QB in the first?

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

MrB said:
If we are in position to draft a franchise QB there's a good chance we are also in position to draft an elite DE or elite LB. do you pass on them to take a QB in the first?

Every time if I dont feel like I have one. Not to mention Dak has good trade value.

Doomsday · Oct 1, 2017

theoneandonly said:
Dak has good trade value.

Right now. Again, see me after week 14.

yimyammer · Oct 1, 2017

theoneandonly said:
Not to mention Dak has good trade value.

lol, not by the time the Cowboys dumbass GM decides he's willing to pull the trigger

MrB · Oct 1, 2017

theoneandonly said:
Every time if I dont feel like I have one. Not to mention Dak has good trade value.

Right now it's a 2 man race (Darnold and Rosen). Are these the guys we're talking about? Or are we talking about a mid-late 1st round guy? We will need to be in the top 3 to have a shot at Darnold or Rosen.

Dodger12 · Oct 1, 2017

Jimmy drafted Walsh when he had Aikman (and Dak's no Aikman). You take a franchise QB if he's available. It's the most important position on the field.

yimyammer · Oct 1, 2017

Dodger12 said:
Jimmy drafted Walsh when he had Aikman (and Dak's no Aikman). You take a franchise QB if he's available. It's the most important position on the field.

I'm willing to bet jeri & co have Dak ~~penciled in~~ carved in stone for the next 10+ years, all we can do is hope they're right

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

MrB said:
Right now it's a 2 man race (Darnold and Rosen). Are these the guys we're talking about? Or are we talking about a mid-late 1st round guy? We will need to be in the top 3 to have a shot at Darnold or Rosen.

For the record i am a big Darnold fan. I expect him to go number one over all. This team could draft top ten, but top 16 looks like a certainty.

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

Dodger12 said:
Jimmy drafted Walsh when he had Aikman (and Dak's no Aikman). You take a franchise QB if he's available. It's the most important position on the field.

For the bold you mean in team sports. You are completely correct on the rest though.

Dodger12 · Oct 1, 2017

yimyammer said:
I'm willing to bet jeri & co have Dak ~~penciled in~~ carved in stone for the next 10+ years, all we can do is hope they're right

I'm afraid you're right. And I'm not confident that these coaches can properly evaluate the position. And why the hell does it look like Dak's regressed from last year?

Dodger12 · Oct 1, 2017

theoneandonly said:
For the bold you mean in team sports. You are completely correct on the rest though.

Absolutely. And it's the hardest position to find and develop. This team has gotten lucky thanks to Romo and they think they can take short cuts on the position.

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

Dodger12 said:
Absolutely. And it's the hardest position to find and develop. This team has gotten lucky thanks to Romo and they think they can take short cuts on the position.

It would one thing if they had David Lee or somebody like that on the staff (look what he did for Romo, did a miracle with Tyrod Taylor) but they dont have anybody close to that type of QB guru to smooth out the rough spots.

yimyammer · Oct 1, 2017

Dodger12 said:
I'm afraid you're right. And I'm not confident that these coaches can properly evaluate the position. And why the hell does it look like Dak's regressed from last year?

I don't know, I don't have a clue how to evaluate much beyond the final score. I REALLY like Dak and feel he can be a franchise QB but like I said, I don't know how to evaluate jack shit

The league is nuts and no team besides the Patriots have shown any kind of consistent dominance season over season & parity makes it next to impossible to know who's gonna be good from week to week and year to year and also makes jeri & co think they're perpetually just a player or play away

its maddening, I wish I didn't care

cml750 · Oct 1, 2017

I am not sure Dak can actually be adequately evaluated as long as Clappy the Clown is our leader. Dak will never be as good as Romo when Romo was on but he has potential and also brings a lot with his ability to run. I am not ready to write Dak off but if a franchise QB is available when we draft we should pick him. I am not sure Dak will ever be a "franchise" QB but he could be a darn good one but will never reach his potential with Ginger.

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

cml750 said:
Dak will never be as good as Romo when Romo was on but he has potential and also brings a lot with his ability to run.

Yeah that reminds me, not much talk about that play where Dak avoided the sack but his body was basically twisted like a pretzel in the process. Romo would still be laying there and out for months.

theoneandonly · Oct 1, 2017

yimyammer said:
its maddening, I wish I didn't care

You know Yim, this might be the greatest line ever written on a message board.

Hoofbite · Oct 1, 2017

They need to draft some fucking defenders. Preferably one's that are:

A) Not at risk for suspension.

B) Not injured at the time of the draft.

C) Not injury prone or with a significant injury history.

D) Not named after food.

Just look at the 2nd rounders from 2010 to 2016. Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, N/A (Thanks, Morris!), Escobar, Demarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, Jaylon Smith. What has the team gotten out of it? 1-1/2 players and a prayer for Jaylon? I don't think Jaylon is anywhere near where the team claims and I hope he's still progressing. He doesn't look like a guy with the 4.50 40-yard time he claimed in January. He wasn't closing a lot of ground on that big ass TE that was overthrown deep in the 4th quarter.

MrB · Oct 1, 2017

Hoofbite said:
They need to draft some fucking defenders. Preferably one's that are:

A) Not at risk for suspension.

B) Not injured at the time of the draft.

C) Not injury prone or with a significant injury history.

D) Not named after food.

Just look at the 2nd rounders from 2010 to 2016. Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, N/A (Thanks, Morris!), Escobar, Demarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, Jaylon Smith. What has the team gotten out of it? 1-1/2 players and a prayer for Jaylon? I don't think Jaylon is anywhere near where the team claims and I hope he's still progressing. He doesn't look like a guy with the 4.50 40-yard time he claimed in January. He wasn't closing a lot of ground on that big ass TE that was overthrown deep in the 4th quarter.

In the next draft I'm looking for a big fast play making LB (preferably a MLB). That or DL with 2 of the first 3 picks. That other pick I'm looking for a RT. Collins needs to be playing Guard.

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