Kiper Big Board and Top-10 by position 2.8.17

Big Board

1. *Myles Garrett DE Texas A&M
2. Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
3. Reuben Foster ILB Alabama
4. *Jamal Adams S LSU
5. **Solomon Thomas DE Stanford

6. *Leonard Fournette RB LSU
7. **Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio St.
8. *Dalvin Cook RB Florida St.
9. *Mike Williams WR Clemson
10. *Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina

11. *Taco Charlton DE Michigan
12. Takkarist McKinley DE UCLA
13. **Jabrill Peppers S Michigan
14. **Malik Hooker S Ohio St.
15. Jarrad Davis LB Florida

16. *Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
17. Tim Williams OLB Alabama
18. *Corey Davis WR Western Michigan
19. *Teez Tabor CB Florida
20. Tre'Davious White CB LSU

21. O.J. Howard TE Alabama
22. **David Njoku TE Miami
23. *Garett Bolles T Utah
24. *Cam Robinson T Alabama
25. *Ryan Ramczyk T Wisconsin

-

ESPN - Not Found

Top 10 by Position

Quarterbacks
1. *Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
2. *Deshaun Watson, Clemson
3. **DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
4. *Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
5. *Brad Kaaya, Miami (Fla.)
6. *Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech
7. Nathan Peterman, Pitt
8. Davis Webb, California
9. Chad Kelly, Mississippi
10. Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee

Running backs
1. *Leonard Fournette, LSU
2. *Dalvin Cook, Florida State
3. *Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
4. *D'Onta Foreman, Texas
5. **Joe Mixon, Oklahoma
6. *Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
7. *Samaje Perine, Oklahoma
8. Kareem Hunt, Toledo
9. Matthew Dayes, NC State
10. Jamaal Williams, BYU

Fullbacks
1. Freddie Stevenson, Florida State
2. Sam Rogers, Virginia Tech
3. Shane Smith, San Jose State
4. Nate Iese, UCLA
5. Anthony Firkser, Harvard
6. Tyler McCloskey, Houston
7. Joe Bacci, Central Michigan
8. Algernon Brown, BYU
9. Prescott Line, Michigan State
10. Marquez Williams, Miami (Fla.)

Wide receivers
1. *Mike Williams, Clemson
2. Corey Davis, Western Michigan
3. *John Ross, Washington
4. *Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
5. *JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC
6. *ArDarius Stewart, Alabama
7. Zay Jones, East Carolina
8. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
9. *Carlos Henderson, Louisiana Tech
10. Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma

Tight ends
1. O.J. Howard, Alabama
2. **David Njoku, Miami (Fla.)
3. Evan Engram, Mississippi
4. *Bucky Hodges, Virginia Tech
5. Gerald Everett, South Alabama
6. Jake Butt, Michigan
7. Jordan Leggett, Clemson
8. Cole Hikutini, Louisville
9. *Adam Shaheen, Ashland
10. Michael Roberts, Toledo

Offensive tackles
1. *Garett Bolles, Utah
2. *Cam Robinson, Alabama
3. *Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
4. Dion Dawkins, Temple
5. *Roderick Johnson, Florida State
6. Taylor Moton, Western Michigan
7. Antonio Garcia, Troy
8. Adam Bisnowaty, Pitt
9. Dan Skipper, Arkansas
10. Will Holden, Vanderbilt

Offensive guards
1. Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
2. Dan Feeney, Indiana
3. Dorian Johnson, Pitt
4. Nico Siragusa, San Diego State
5. *Damien Mama, USC
6. Danny Isidora, Miami (Fla.)
7. Isaac Asiata, Utah
8. Jordan Morgan, Kutztown State
9. Zach Banner, USC
10. Jessamen Dunker, Tennessee State

Centers
1. Ethan Pocic, LSU
2. Pat Elflein, Ohio State
3. Tyler Orlosky, West Virginia
4. Jon Toth, Kentucky
5. Cameron Tom, Southern Mississippi
6. Chase Roullier, Wyoming
7. Kyle Fuller, Baylor
8. Jay Guillermo, Clemson
9. Lucas Crowley, North Carolina
10. Riley Sorenson, Washington State

Defensive ends
1. *Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
2. Jonathan Allen, Alabama
3. **Solomon Thomas, Stanford
4. Taco Charlton, Michigan
5. *Derek Barnett, Tennessee
6. *Charles Harris, Missouri
7. *Carl Lawson, Auburn
8. Jordan Willis, Kansas State
9. DeMarcus Walker, Florida State
10. Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova

Defensive tackles
1. *Malik McDowell, Michigan State
2. *Caleb Brantley, Florida
3. Carlos Watkins, Clemson
4. Chris Wormley, Michigan
5. *Elijah Qualls, Washington
6. *Nazair Jones, North Carolina
7. Montravius Adams, Auburn
8. Jaleel Johnson, Iowa
9. Ryan Glasgow, Michigan
10. Dalvin Tomlinson, Alabama

Inside linebackers
1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
2. Jarrad Davis, Florida
3. *Raekwon McMillan, Ohio State
4. *Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
5. *Anthony Walker, Northwestern
6. Kendell Beckwith, LSU
7. Ben Gedeon, Michigan
8. Marquel Lee, Wake Forest
9. Harvey Langi, BYU
10. Ben Boulware, Clemson

Outside linebackers
1. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA
2. Tim Williams, Alabama
3. Haason Reddick, Temple
4. Ryan Anderson, Alabama
5. *T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
6. Duke Riley, LSU
7. Ejuan Price, Pitt
8. *Alex Anzalone, Florida
9. Tyus Bowser, Houston
10. Vince Biegel, Wisconsin

Cornerbacks
1. **Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State
2. *Teez Tabor, CB, Florida
3. Tre'Davious White, LSU
4. *Sidney Jones, Washington
5. *Quincy Wilson, Florida
6. **Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
7. Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson
8. *Gareon Conley, Ohio State
9. Jourdan Lewis, Michigan
10. Desmond King, Iowa

Safeties
1. *Jamal Adams, LSU
2. **Jabrill Peppers, Michigan
3. **Malik Hooker, Ohio State
4. *Budda Baker, Washington
5. *Marcus Williams, Utah
6. Obi Melifonwu, Connecticut
7. *Josh Jones, NC State
8. Marcus Maye, Florida
9. Justin Evans, Texas A&M
10. Eddie Jackson, Alabama

Kickers and punters
1. Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State (K)
2. Jake Elliott, Memphis (K)
3. Austin Rehkow, Idaho (P & K)
4. Justin Vogel, Miami (Fla) (P)
5. Toby Baker, Arkansas (P)
6. Cameron Johnston, Ohio State (P)
7. Younghoe Koo, Georgia Southern (K)
8. Hayden Hunt, Colorado St. (P)
9. Harrison Butker, Georgia Tech (K)
10. Eric Keena, North Texas (P)

Casting a wide net I realize, but one of the following players will be our 1st round pick.

dbair1967 said:

Wide receivers
3. *John Ross, Washington

Keep reading...

dbair1967 said:

Tight ends
1. O.J. Howard, Alabama

Keep reading...

dbair1967 said:

Offensive tackles
1. *Garett Bolles, Utah

Keep reading...

dbair1967 said:

Defensive ends
4. Taco Charlton, Michigan
5. *Derek Barnett, Tennessee
1. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA

Keep reading...

dbair1967 said:

Inside linebackers
3. *Raekwon McMillan, Ohio State
4. *Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt

Keep reading...

dbair1967 said:

Cornerbacks
4. *Sidney Jones, Washington
5. *Quincy Wilson, Florida

Keep reading...

dbair1967 said:

Safeties
2. **Jabrill Peppers, Michigan
4. *Budda Baker, Washington
9. Justin Evans, Texas A&M

Keep reading...

Please let teams rank Barnett as the 5th best DE so he can land in our laps.

Midswat said:

Please let teams rank Barnett as the 5th best DE so he can land in our laps.

Keep reading...

I think he falls. Short with short arms.

cmd34 said:

Casting a wide net I realize, but one of the following players will be our 1st round pick.

Keep reading...

OT Boiles in the first? You not a fan of Free? I just can't see any way they use a first rounder on the OL

Taco Charlton or Sidney Jones would be my pick (but I don't think either will still be on the board at 28)

bvhawkeye said:

Taco Charlton or Sidney Jones would be my pick (but I don't think either will still be on the board at 28)

Keep reading...

I think Sydney Jones or CB will be there and worth taking. I dont think a pass rusher worth taking will be, unless you wanna take a chance on Tim Williams,or somebody like that.

theoneandonly said:

I think Sydney Jones or CB will be there and worth taking. I dont think a pass rusher worth taking will be, unless you wanna take a chance on Tim Williams,or somebody like that.

Keep reading...

Tim Williams would be another cross your fingers and hope you don't get another Randy Gregory (according to the internet rumors). Hoping Dallas has learned their lesson on that

Midswat said:

Please let teams rank Barnett as the 5th best DE so he can land in our laps.

Keep reading...

I think he'd be a solid pick for us.

I also like Charles Harris

bvhawkeye said:

Tim Williams would be another cross your fingers and hope you don't get another Randy Gregory (according to the internet rumors). Hoping Dallas has learned their lesson on that

Keep reading...

Reasonably sure if the rumors on him are true that he wont be on our draft board.

There are some Bama people I know who say the "rumors" are not only true about him, but there's a lot of stuff to still be uncovered.

cmd34 said:

Casting a wide net I realize, but one of the following players will be our 1st round pick.

Keep reading...

Practically speaking I just don't understand the TE need. I was watching some highlight footage of passes of Romo to Escobar and he just seems like he was underused or just ignored especially in the red zone. Seemed like he could have. When used all the time. He's not fast but he is tall and has good hands. Maybe we kept him on the team waiting for him to eventually be built into a WR or so no other teams get him and use him the right way. Unless you Jason Witten who was grandfathered into Garrett's scheme with a role that probably won't be given to any other TE, what is the use. Think about the ridiculous use of bubble screens to Bennett or Geoff Swaim used on out patterns that are inches across the LOS or Hanna needing to stay in and block for blitzes so the WRs can get downfield into their timing patterns? It's all just talk and wastes. If we get Howard he is going to have to sit behind everyone else, then he will have to block and then there will be press conferences about him "picking up the nuances of the offenses" and "he's beginning to show some good things in how he is blocking and making adjustments" and "we have to be careful how we use him".

But 3rd down and short or 1st and goal will come and go with a constant empty set pass plays featuring Dez back shoulder and the ever present run back and forth in the endzone until someone is sacked or open.

With exception to the 2016 games up until the Viking game where the ball was intentionally spread around (kind of like the Patriots do), the Garrett pass offense has no direction for a nonWitten TE. It's all about the WRs and really it's just kind of one play over and over with different personnel groupings. Garrett must have his empty set.

bvhawkeye said:

OT Boiles in the first? You not a fan of Free? I just can't see any way they use a first rounder on the OL

Keep reading...

Free needs to be replaced. He'll be in the last year of his deal and they could create cap room by releasing him. At best he needs to take a paycut and compete for his job and maybe backup swing T.

Ideally Chaz Green would stay healthy and win the job in camp this year, but if they think he will never be healthy enough to depend on then finding another T capable of playing RT and LT in this draft is something we need.

I was totally against using our pick this past draft on another T (I thought it was massive overkill and wasting an opportunity to really improve the team elsewhere) but at pick 28, if a guy who is a walk in 10 year starter at RT is there and is rated considerably higher than a player at another position, I wont go ape shit over it.

That said, I think OL is addressed later in the draft this year.

Omegasupreme said:

Practically speaking I just don't understand the TE need. I was watching some highlight footage of passes of Romo to Escobar and he just seems like he was underused or just ignored especially in the red zone. Seemed like he could have. When used all the time. He's not fast but he is tall and has good hands. Maybe we kept him on the team waiting for him to eventually be built into a WR or so no other teams get him and use him the right way. Unless you Jason Witten who was grandfathered into Garrett's scheme with a role that probably won't be given to any other TE, what is the use. Think about the ridiculous use of bubble screens to Bennett or Geoff Swaim used on out patterns that are inches across the LOS or Hanna needing to stay in and block for blitzes so the WRs can get downfield into their timing patterns? It's all just talk and wastes. If we get Howard he is going to have to sit behind everyone else, then he will have to block and then there will be press conferences about him "picking up the nuances of the offenses" and "he's beginning to show some good things in how he is blocking and making adjustments" and "we have to be careful how we use him".

But 3rd down and short or 1st and goal will come and go with a constant empty set pass plays featuring Dez back shoulder and the ever present run back and forth in the endzone until someone is sacked or open.

With exception to the 2016 games up until the Viking game where the ball was intentionally spread around (kind of like the Patriots do), the Garrett pass offense has no direction for a nonWitten TE. It's all about the WRs and really it's just kind of one play over and over with different personnel groupings. Garrett must have his empty set.

Keep reading...

Unlike the last 3 times the team used a high pick on a TE, Witten is no longer in his prime and is clearly close to retirement. It appears he is coming back for 2017, but I strongly suspect that's it for him. The draft is more about planning for the future than the immediate present. if OJ Howard were available at 28, I think he'd have to be a strong consideration here.

Chaz Green? Really? Still? Do you have game that you thought he played well in last year that shows his potential to take over that Tackle position?

dbair1967 said:

Unlike the last 3 times the team used a high pick on a TE, Witten is no longer in his prime and is clearly close to retirement. It appears he is coming back for 2017, but I strongly suspect that's it for him. The draft is more about planning for the future than the immediate present. if OJ Howard were available at 28, I think he'd have to be a strong consideration here.

Keep reading...

I see the talent with Howard no doubt but it's more like we won't see what he can do until Garrett is reduced or dispatched.

Omegasupreme said:

Chaz Green? Really? Still? Do you have game that you thought he played well in last year that shows his potential to take over that Tackle position?

Keep reading...

Yeah, he played pretty good in every game he played, especially considering his rookie year was a washout.

He played 2 1/2 games or so in place of Tyron Smith and was not a problem on the field. He clearly has talent.

Problem is he has to figure out how to stay healthy, something he hasn't done here or in college.

dbair1967 said:

Free needs to be replaced. He'll be in the last year of his deal and they could create cap room by releasing him. At best he needs to take a paycut and compete for his job and maybe backup swing T.

Ideally Chaz Green would stay healthy and win the job in camp this year, but if they think he will never be healthy enough to depend on then finding another T capable of playing RT and LT in this draft is something we need.

I was totally against using our pick this past draft on another T (I thought it was massive overkill and wasting an opportunity to really improve the team elsewhere) but at pick 28, if a guy who is a walk in 10 year starter at RT is there and is rated considerably higher than a player at another position, I wont go ape shit over it.

That said, I think OL is addressed later in the draft this year.

Keep reading...

Fair enough, however, why not move Collins to RT and spend a 3rd rounder on a replacement G. We need defense so badly on this team it's not even funny

bvhawkeye said:

Fair enough, however, why not move Collins to RT and spend a 3rd rounder on a replacement G. We need defense so badly on this team it's not even funny

Keep reading...

It really sounds like they don't think he can play T on a week to week basis.