Early look at next year, who do you think gives us run for the division?

Midswat · Jan 16, 2015

I actually expect the Giants to be pretty tough. Spags is a very talented DC, and adding Victor Cruz back to that passing attack is scary.

They need to shore up the run game and OL though.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 16, 2015

Same. Also the Giants are usually bad one year and then kickass the following.

But if they lose JPP... that'll be huge

VTA · Jan 16, 2015

I'm expecting better from the Giants as well, with them being the only difference. Philly will remain who they are, which is a threat to take the division and Washington to continue to provide comic relief.

The only question mark I have is Dallas...

bbgun · Jan 16, 2015

Giants. Eli could roll off his death bed and throw three TDs against us. Having to deal with Beckham for the next 8-10 years will be a huge challenge. Philly will be right there provided Foles stays on the field.

ThoughtExperiment · Jan 16, 2015

I think there's a good chance they're all better. Well, especially the Skins and Giants. Maybe the Eagles don't have as much room to improve because I think Kelly has had them playing pretty close to their potential the last two years anyway.

Who knows about the division. In a league with this much parity, I think psychology plays a big part. I don't really like that we're now the hunted -- no more "Us against the world", "Nobody believes in us", etc. for us this year. Everyone's going to be calling us not just division favorites but conference favorites all offseason long.

dbair1967 · Jan 16, 2015

The Giants could be improved. Not sure about Philly. I dont think Washington will be any better though.

Doomsday · Jan 16, 2015

ThoughtExperiment said:
Who knows about the division. In a league with this much parity, I think psychology plays a big part. I don't really like that we're now the hunted -- no more "Us against the world", "Nobody believes in us", etc. for us this year. Everyone's going to be calling us not just division favorites but conference favorites all offseason long.

FINISH THE FIGHT!!!

Sheik · Jan 16, 2015

It'll be a 3-way fight. I think Washington will suck again.

Bob Sacamano · Jan 16, 2015

Expect the Giants and the skins to load up on Oline like we did. So we need to build a better Dline or we'll be left in the dust.

NoShame · Jan 16, 2015

Midswat said:
I actually expect the Giants to be pretty tough. Spags is a very talented DC, and adding Victor Cruz back to that passing attack is scary.

They need to shore up the run game and OL though.

As of right now it looks like the Giants.. Getting rid of Fewell and upgrading to Spags will make all the difference they need. Add in the way they finished the year on offense (although against some pretty bum teams) leaves Giants fans something to be excited about going into next season.

Eagles will be much of the same. Redskins oline should be somewhat improved but I have a feeling as long as RG3 is there with Gruden there will always be a problem. Hard to imagine that situation getting any better with how ugly it got this past season.

Bonecrusher#31 · Jan 16, 2015

I think it will be us and Giants battling to the end with Philly 2 or 3 games behind because of QB issues.

The DC basement dwellers will occupy their all too familiar place.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 16, 2015

Sheik said:
It'll be a 3-way fight. I think Washington will suck again.

Eagles come out the gate real fast but seem to fade down the end. They would have finished much the same even with Foles.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 16, 2015

Bob Sacamano said:
Expect the Giants and the skins to load up on Oline like we did. So we need to build a better Dline or we'll be left in the dust.

It'll take more than one year to get the OL we have, and they (Redskins) still have QB issues.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 16, 2015

NoShame said:
As of right now it looks like the Giants.. Getting rid of Fewell and upgrading to Spags will make all the difference they need. Add in the way they finished the year on offense (although against some pretty bum teams) leaves Giants fans something to be excited about going into next season.

Eagles will be much of the same. Redskins oline should be somewhat improved but I have a feeling as long as RG3 is there with Gruden there will always be a problem. Hard to imagine that situation getting any better with how ugly it got this past season.

How exactly is Spags and upgrade over Fewell? Last time Spags was a DC was for the Saints in 2012. The Saints finished DEAD LAST in defense.

dbair1967 · Jan 16, 2015

NoShame said:
As of right now it looks like the Giants.. Getting rid of Fewell and upgrading to Spags will make all the difference they need..

Serious question, has a Spagnoulo coached defense fielded a decent unit since 2007?

A couple seasons ago one of his defenses set an NFL record for futility IIRC

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 16, 2015

dbair1967 said:
Serious question, has a Spagnoulo coached defense fielded a decent unit since 2007?

A couple seasons ago one of his defenses set an NFL record for futility IIRC

The one year when he was HC for the Rams, they had a top 5 defense, but after that... nothing. He was a DC for one year and then went on to be an HC on down to a position coach.

NoShame · Jan 17, 2015

The season Spags was with the Saints was the bountygate season. I'd be a little hesitant on counting on that showing to be the same with the Giants this coming year.

And you guys pay attention to the rest of the NFL.. You know the state of the Rams the past 10 years. Specifically when he was there. That team has been a hot mess. Fisher is just now showing some signs of getting them out of it.

I get that his ability to be a quality HC is questioned. But as a DC and what he accomplished with the Giants back in 07, and in that SB against arguably the best offense in the league ever, can't be dismissed.

As for Fewell... That guy is a horrible DC. He had enough talent to field a decent unit but fielded nothing but underperforming units year after year.

cockstrong · Jan 17, 2015

LAZARUS_LOGAN said:
Same. Also the Giants are usually bad one year and then kickass the following.

But if they lose JPP... that'll be huge

Looks as though they will franchise him

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 17, 2015

NoShame said:
The season Spags was with the Saints was the bountygate season. I'd be a little hesitant on counting on that showing to be the same with the Giants this coming year.

Post bounty gate. Bounty gate occurred under Gregg Williams. I fail to see the relevence. How many players were suspended on that defense as a result? 1 maybe 2? I know Vilma was one and it was a partial suspension I suspect.

NoShame said:
I get that his ability to be a quality HC is questioned. But as a DC and what he accomplished with the Giants back in 07, and in that SB against arguably the best offense in the league ever, can't be dismissed.

As for Fewell... That guy is a horrible DC. He had enough talent to field a decent unit but fielded nothing but underperforming units year after year.

Uh didn't Fewell accomplish that same feat against those very same Belicek-led and Brady QB Patriots? So then what makes Fewell so terrible, but Spags so good? The Giants won Super Bowls with both of them as DC.

From all accounts it looks as if Spags was a one-hit wonder.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jan 17, 2015

cockstrong said:
Looks as though they will franchise him

What's the franchise price? It's got to be steeped.

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