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He was a prolific producer of rebounds and record albums. And nicknames, too, as if at 7-foot-1 and 350 pounds he was too big for the simple ''Shaq'' that made him an instantly recognizable, one-name star in all of his endeavors.

Shaquille O'Neal had more than 28,000 points and almost 4 million Twitter followers. He appeared in six NBA finals, three times as the MVP, and seven feature films, twice in a starring role.

A 15-time All-Star, four-time champion and the 2000 NBA Most Valuable Player, Shaquille O'Neal announced his retirement on Twitter on Wednesday after spending most of his 19th season on the Boston Celtics bench, in street clothes because of leg injuries.

Along with a mid-afternoon tweet saying, ''im retiring,'' O'Neal included a link to a 16-second video of him saying, ''We did it; 19 years, baby. Thank you very much. That's why I'm telling you first: I'm about to retire. Love you. Talk to you soon.''

An inveterate prankster who gave himself a new nickname - or several - in each of his six NBA cities, O'Neal did not notify his latest team, leaving it wondering about his plans. He played just 37 games this season, the first of a two-year deal at the veteran's minimum salary, making just three brief appearances after Feb. 1.

''He's a giant,'' commissioner David Stern said Wednesday at the NBA finals in Miami. ''He's physically imposing; he has an imposing smile. In the game, he imposed his will, and he has done it for quite a long time. It's been a great run here, and we're going to miss him greatly. We hope we can find ways to keep him involved in the game.''

O'Neal retires fifth all-time with 28,596 points, 12th with 13,099 rebounds, and a .582 field goal percentage that is second only to Artis Gilmore among players with more than 2,000 baskets. His free throw percentage of .527 - well, now is not the time to dwell on that.

''I'm a little bit sad,'' said Heat president Pat Riley, who also coached O'Neal when he won a title in Miami and watched Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Patrick Ewing and Alonzo Mourning when they retired. ''It's been an honor to be part of coaching great, great players. And he will go down as one of the greatest of all time.''

Also one of the most charismatic players in NBA history, O'Neal was a franchise-saver when the Orlando Magic made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 1992 draft. He took them from the lottery to the playoffs in two years, and then led them to the NBA finals in his third year before they were swept by the Houston Rockets.

O'Neal signed with the Los Angeles Lakers in 1996 and had his greatest success there, winning three titles alongside Kobe Bryant and coach Phil Jackson. But amid tension between O'Neal and Bryant after a loss to the Detroit Pistons in the finals, O'Neal was traded to the Heat in the summer of 2004.

After 3 1/2 years in Miami, a tenure that included his fourth NBA championship, O'Neal became a veteran for hire, moving to Phoenix and then Cleveland and finally Boston. But he couldn't deliver another title for Steve Nash and Amar'e Stoudemire with the Suns, with LeBron James with the Cavaliers, or with the Celtics' Big Three of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen.

At each stop, he endeared himself to the fans and his new teammates with his effervescent smile and playful attitude, including the habit of adopting a new nickname he felt embodied his role with his new team. In Phoenix he was the ''Big Shaqtus''; in Boston, the ''Big Shamroq.''

''What a career for Shaq Diesel!!'' James wrote on Twitter. ''The most dominating force to ever play the game. Great person to be around as well. Comedy all the time!!''

O'Neal embraced social networking, amassing more than 3.8 million followers on his Twitter account and keeping them informed on his ''random acts of Shaqness'' - like sitting in Harvard Square, pretending to be a statue, or going out in drag on Halloween.

But O'Neal's off-court persona couldn't disguise the fact he was getting old, and while he showed he could still play with younger opponents, he couldn't manage to stay on the court with them. He missed a week in November with a bruised right knee, a week in December with a calf injury, and another in January with a sore right hip.

He returned for three games - a total of about 34 minutes - before missing the next 27 games with what the team called a sore right leg. Although the injury was originally expected to keep him out just a few games, his absence stretched to more than two months.

He returned to play in one more regular-season game, but lasted just 5 minutes, 29 seconds before reinjuring the leg and limping off the court. He missed Boston's entire first-round series against the New York Knicks and made two appearances against Miami, a total of 12 minutes, and scored two points.

In all, O'Neal averaged just 9.2 points, 4.8 rebounds and 20.3 minutes this season while playing in 37 games - all career lows.

''I'm glad that he retired. I think it was time,'' former guard Tim Hardaway said. ''He was hurting his legacy. You don't want to see anybody hurt their legacy when they're going out. I think a lot of people are happy he didn't go through that pain of waiting too long. And I think it was tough for everybody to watch Shaq when he was playing hurt like that at the end of this season.''

And that left O'Neal in the market for a new nickname.

After announcing his retirement, he asked fans to give him a nickname that befit his retirement. He reported at about 5 p.m. that ''The Big 401K'' was the leader.

''I know you can do better, though,'' he said in another video. ''I'm here all day. I'm retired.''
 

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He should have retired 3 or 4 years ago. I never liked him.
 
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I feel old.

I remember being 13 years old, and buying up all sorts of Shaq rookie cards. To this day, I have no idea what I ever did with those cards. Nor do I know if they're worth anything. Although that's probably unlikely.
 
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Kazaam 2 in the works?
 

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They were debating his place on the all time centers list on ESPN radio today. Which led to more debate of others on the list.

The consensus top 5 seemed to be....

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Shaq
 

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They were debating his place on the all time centers list on ESPN radio today. Which led to more debate of others on the list.

The consensus top 5 seemed to be....

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Shaq

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They broke down Kareem's first 8 years in the league. He was ridiculously good. I was too young to appreciate his prime years.
 

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Moses Malone got a lot of votes for 6th on that list.

The two biggest criticisms of Shaq that kept him from being any higher than 4th or 5th on anyone's list was his inability to do anything outside the paint and the level of competition he faced, position wise, during his career. There just weren't great centers in the league for most of his career.
 

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Moses Malone got a lot of votes for 6th on that list.

The two biggest criticisms of Shaq that kept him from being any higher than 4th or 5th on anyone's list was his inability to do anything outside the paint and the level of competition he faced, position wise, during his career. There just weren't great centers in the league for most of his career.

Shaq's career was one big offensive foul after another. And yeah, get his ass outside the paint, then what? He was a big turd. Put Moses Malone in front of him on that list. If I cared enough, I could probably come up with a few more names that I'd put ahead of him.

I need to calm down before I have a stroke. You have me all worked up. Shaq sux.
 

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But having said that, you can't tell me Shaq wouldn't have dominated all those other guys in the paint during their prime. Too big. Too powerful.
 

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But having said that, you can't tell me Shaq wouldn't have dominated all those other guys in the paint during their prime. Too big. Too powerful.


Shaq would have been #20,001 on Wilt's list of people he's F'ed.
 
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But having said that, you can't tell me Shaq wouldn't have dominated all those other guys in the paint during their prime. Too big. Too powerful.

He would have, but most of those guys could step out and play out of the box.
 

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But having said that, you can't tell me Shaq wouldn't have dominated all those other guys in the paint during their prime. Too big. Too powerful.

Shaq went head to head against Olajuwon in the 1995 NBA finals and was swept. Olajuwon outscored Shaq by 5 ppg and won Finals MVP. I have no doubt that the other three on the list would do just as well since Shaq had little defensive capability. You cannot stop Shaq, but you can counter him with a good big man on the other end.

David Robinson played well against Shaq as also
Robinson PPG: 28 RB: 12.0 Assist: 4.7 Steal: 2.7 Block: 2.4 TO: 2.6
Shaq PPG: 26 RB: 12.7 Assist: 1.8 Steal: 0.7 Block: 2.0 TO: 3.9
 

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Shaq went head to head against Olajuwon in the 1995 NBA finals and was swept. Olajuwon outscored Shaq by 5 ppg and won Finals MVP. I have no doubt that the other three on the list would do just as well since Shaq had little defensive capability. You cannot stop Shaq, but you can counter him with a good big man on the other end.

David Robinson played well against Shaq as also
Robinson PPG: 28 RB: 12.0 Assist: 4.7 Steal: 2.7 Block: 2.4 TO: 2.6
Shaq PPG: 26 RB: 12.7 Assist: 1.8 Steal: 0.7 Block: 2.0 TO: 3.9

Shaq was a young pup at the time.

He peaked in 1999-2000. That Shaq was the single most dominant big man in the history of the league and there isn't a close second.
 

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Shaq would have been #20,001 on Wilt's list of people he's F'ed.

Amen to that. You and I agree on this.

His mammoth size and the way games are officiated nowadays help attribute to his scoring prowess. Only move he had his whole career was a drop step. Did he ever do anything besides dunk? He was useless 3 ft away from the basket including free throws. Only thing I will give him some props for was his athleticism early on for a guy his size. That is until the Shaq persona took over along with the hollywood theatrics and he ballooned to 350 -400lbs and really became a joke IMO. Most over-hyped basketball player during my lifetime and one of the main reasons I haven't watched an NBA game in over 10 years.
 

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Shaq was a young pup at the time.

He peaked in 1999-2000. That Shaq was the single most dominant big man in the history of the league and there isn't a close second.

Shaq peaked once Olajuwon, Robinson, and Ewing were past their prime and on their way to retirement. If he played in their era he would not have been as dominant as he was. Shaq had to wait for three great centers to leave the league before he could begin his reign as most dominant ever.
 

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Shaq peaked once Olajuwon, Robinson, and Ewing were past their prime and on their way to retirement. If he played in their era he would not have been as dominant as he was. Shaq had to wait for three great centers to leave the league before he could begin his reign as most dominant ever.

Eh. I don't buy it. At least not with Robinson and Ewing. I never said he could defend or hit a jump shot. I'm talking strictly in the paint on offense.

One thing I heard said about Olajuwon that I think is correct is had Michael Jordan not decided to play some baseball, Hakeem would have probably finished his career without a ring. And probably not ranked so highly now.
 
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Eh. I don't buy it. At least not with Robinson and Ewing. I never said he could defend or hit a jump shot. I'm talking strictly in the paint on offense.

One thing I heard said about Olajuwon that I think is correct is had Michael Jordan not decided to play some baseball, Hakeem would have probably finished his career without a ring. And probably not ranked so highly now.

Robinson and Shaq had some great match-ups, even later in Robinson's career. He was one of the few bigs that was strong enough to hang with Shaq in the paint. for as lean as he was, he was incredibly strong. He also out smarted Shaq, knew how to use Diesel's strengths against him.
 
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As to the Olajuwon thing, i don't think that even the Bulls would have stopped that 94 Rockets team.

That said, its all ifs and buts. Hakeem has 2 rings and will go down as one of the greatest centers to play the game.
 

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Eh. I don't buy it. At least not with Robinson and Ewing. I never said he could defend or hit a jump shot. I'm talking strictly in the paint on offense.

One thing I heard said about Olajuwon that I think is correct is had Michael Jordan not decided to play some baseball, Hakeem would have probably finished his career without a ring. And probably not ranked so highly now.

You can add stipulations all you like, but Shaq was unable to outperform the great centers that came before him. If he had played in their era he would be remember more like Ewing is than possibly being better than Olajuwon.

As for the Jordan argument, I agree Olajuwon might not have any rings, but he would still be one of the GOATs just like Barkley and Karl Malone are among the GOATs at PF even though they don't have a ring either. It is a testament to Olajuwon that he could beat out Kemp, Robinson, Ewing, Malone, Shaq, and Barkley to win the two championships that Jordan didn't claim in the mid-90s. And he did it in his 30s.

If Shaq didn't play with Kobe/D.Wade and two of the greatest coaches in NBA history he wouldn't have any rings either.
 
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